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<blockquote data-quote="The Jones Boy" data-source="post: 820283" data-attributes="member: 70721"><p>This is utter rubbish.</p><p>Hansen doesn't dictate how coaches and what coaches should be implementing with their players outside of the AB set up.</p><p>The fact is he doesn't need to...</p><p>Kiwis have always loved running rugby and even during the 1980's when Grant Fox was following the international remit for penalty kicks being pre-eminent we were still a nation that admired running rugby and paid greatest respect to the Wales teams of the 1970's and the great running French teams that included Sella and Blanco</p><p>We lost World Cup opportunities because the desire to play attractive rugby often got in the way of playing tournament winning rugby.</p><p>There never has been a considerably conflicting ideology among the NZ public or the rugby fraternity.(Except when we have had coaches who weren't thinking expansively...</p><p>It doesn't come from Hansen.</p><p>It comes from what Kiwi's want to see when they watch rugby at any level. School, club, provincial, super or the AB's.</p><p>This attitude has been in us from the start, it didn't come upon us in recent years. Strewth, what a load of poppycock. </p><p></p><p>The importance of the forwards is never lost on us but 'the desire to run at pace and create tries has <u>always</u> burned in Kiwi hearts 'whether it's in touch rugby with your mates at the beach or a local park, or it's on the biggest stage.</p><p>Tries over kicks anytime.</p><p>That attitude has cost us in the past.</p><p>Doesn't matter though, thats our attitude and it won't be changing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is a chunk of the Kiwi population that couldn't give a s**t if the All Blacks never existed. Rugby means nothing to them. They never watch rugby or go to games and they don't know the rules (mostly sheilas to be fair but it's still a chunk of the population) The entire country is not on message, standing excitedly anticipating a ticket tape parade etc, what a load of old rot.</p><p>If you want to see some ugly rhetoric and a disunited nation, just wait until the AB's start to lose... then it's real ugly and the provincial factions flare up.</p><p>The share of the kiwi population that cares about rugby is not on message at all. They know their rugby and if they are not happy with the 'style' of rugby being played they will be keenly forthright in their opinions, public and private regardless of the result.</p><p><u>Hansen is performing a miracle in our time at the moment. Not only is he winning a LOT he is also winning in an eye catching style that ardent Kiwi rugby supporters admire.</u></p><p>If that were to change make no mistake, the glowing rhetoric would change in a heartbeat and you would think that NZ was about to slip beneath the waves.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Bang on.</p><p>RSA are well below their usual high quality and Aussie have issues they can't resolve until they bring in fresh talent.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Jones Boy, post: 820283, member: 70721"] This is utter rubbish. Hansen doesn't dictate how coaches and what coaches should be implementing with their players outside of the AB set up. The fact is he doesn't need to... Kiwis have always loved running rugby and even during the 1980's when Grant Fox was following the international remit for penalty kicks being pre-eminent we were still a nation that admired running rugby and paid greatest respect to the Wales teams of the 1970's and the great running French teams that included Sella and Blanco We lost World Cup opportunities because the desire to play attractive rugby often got in the way of playing tournament winning rugby. There never has been a considerably conflicting ideology among the NZ public or the rugby fraternity.(Except when we have had coaches who weren't thinking expansively... It doesn't come from Hansen. It comes from what Kiwi's want to see when they watch rugby at any level. School, club, provincial, super or the AB's. This attitude has been in us from the start, it didn't come upon us in recent years. Strewth, what a load of poppycock. The importance of the forwards is never lost on us but 'the desire to run at pace and create tries has [U]always[/U] burned in Kiwi hearts 'whether it's in touch rugby with your mates at the beach or a local park, or it's on the biggest stage. Tries over kicks anytime. That attitude has cost us in the past. Doesn't matter though, thats our attitude and it won't be changing. There is a chunk of the Kiwi population that couldn't give a s**t if the All Blacks never existed. Rugby means nothing to them. They never watch rugby or go to games and they don't know the rules (mostly sheilas to be fair but it's still a chunk of the population) The entire country is not on message, standing excitedly anticipating a ticket tape parade etc, what a load of old rot. If you want to see some ugly rhetoric and a disunited nation, just wait until the AB's start to lose... then it's real ugly and the provincial factions flare up. The share of the kiwi population that cares about rugby is not on message at all. They know their rugby and if they are not happy with the 'style' of rugby being played they will be keenly forthright in their opinions, public and private regardless of the result. [U]Hansen is performing a miracle in our time at the moment. Not only is he winning a LOT he is also winning in an eye catching style that ardent Kiwi rugby supporters admire.[/U] If that were to change make no mistake, the glowing rhetoric would change in a heartbeat and you would think that NZ was about to slip beneath the waves. Bang on. RSA are well below their usual high quality and Aussie have issues they can't resolve until they bring in fresh talent. [/QUOTE]
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