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Originally posted by Kimmy_The_Kiwi@Mar 31 2006, 11:37 PM
No offence.

But i think afl is **** :ph34r:

I just...dont get the sport.
I never really rated it until I went to a match.

It's not as good as rugby (obviously), but it's fun to watch. The skill and fitness levels are very high, and it's great to watch some of the acrobatic marks that get made.
 
Originally posted by Kimmy_The_Crackhead@Apr 1 2006, 11:42 AM
AFL isnt their national game.

If any game is their national game, it would be rugby league or cricket.
AFL IS our National game stupid
 
Originally posted by The TRUTH!!+Apr 1 2006, 10:01 PM-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Kimmy_The_Crackhead
@Apr 1 2006, 11:42 AM
AFL isnt their national game.

If any game is their national game, it would be rugby league or cricket.
AFL IS our National game stupid [/b]
Its only played in Melbourne :huh:

Cricket is played in victoria, qld & nsw
League is played in melbourne, qld & nsw.

Yeh its ya national sport :rolleyes: just like league is NZ's national game *cough*
 
Originally posted by Kimmy_The_Kiwi+Apr 1 2006, 11:28 PM-->
Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@Apr 1 2006, 10:01 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Kimmy_The_Crackhead
@Apr 1 2006, 11:42 AM
AFL isnt their national game.

If any game is their national game, it would be rugby league or cricket.

AFL IS our National game stupid
Its only played in Melbourne :huh:

Cricket is played in victoria, qld & nsw
League is played in melbourne, qld & nsw.

Yeh its ya national sport :rolleyes: just like league is NZ's national game *cough* [/b]
Good point. Netball is our national game.
 
Originally posted by Kimmy_The_Kiwi+Apr 1 2006, 11:28 PM-->
Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@Apr 1 2006, 10:01 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Kimmy_The_Crackhead
@Apr 1 2006, 11:42 AM
AFL isnt their national game.

If any game is their national game, it would be rugby league or cricket.

AFL IS our National game stupid
Its only played in Melbourne :huh:

Cricket is played in victoria, qld & nsw
League is played in melbourne, qld & nsw.

Yeh its ya national sport :rolleyes: just like league is NZ's national game *cough* [/b]
I dont know why i bother but...

Sydney Swans (from Sydney
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West Coast Eagles (from Perth)
Brisbane Lions (from Brisbane
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Adelaide Crows (from Adelaide
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)
Port Adelaide Power (from Adelaide :huh: )
Fremantle Dockers (from Perth)

The rest of the teams are from Melbourne

League is only played in 3 states ,AFL is played in 5

AFL is the most popular sport in Australia by far........ get it? got it? good.
 
Originally posted by The TRUTH!!+Apr 2 2006, 02:49 AM-->
Originally posted by Kimmy_The_Kiwi@Apr 1 2006, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@Apr 1 2006, 10:01 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Kimmy_The_Crackhead
@Apr 1 2006, 11:42 AM
AFL isnt their national game.

If any game is their national game, it would be rugby league or cricket.

AFL IS our National game stupid

Its only played in Melbourne :huh:

Cricket is played in victoria, qld & nsw
League is played in melbourne, qld & nsw.

Yeh its ya national sport :rolleyes: just like league is NZ's national game *cough*
I dont know why i bother but...

Sydney Swans (from Sydney
idea3.gif
)
West Coast Eagles (from Perth)
Brisbane Lions (from Brisbane
wwww.gif
)
Adelaide Crows (from Adelaide
idea3.gif
)
Port Adelaide Power (from Adelaide :huh: )
Fremantle Dockers (from Perth)

The rest of the teams are from Melbourne

League is only played in 3 states ,AFL is played in 5

AFL is the most popular sport in Australia by far........ get it? got it? good. [/b]
The TV Ratings would disagree.
 
Zomg noobz.

Cricket is our national game. Australian football might just have it over rugby league, but there are so many different ways to compare the two codes it's close to impossible to know. What I do know is that in Queensland and New South Wales (two of the three biggest states) rugby league is still the far more dominate footy code, for the moment anyway.
 
Originally posted by Wally@Apr 2 2006, 10:34 AM
Zomg noobz.

Cricket is our national game. Australian football might just have it over rugby league, but there are so many different ways to compare the two codes it's close to impossible to know. What I do know is that in Queensland and New South Wales, for the moment anyway, rugby league is till the far more dominate footy code.
Exactly.
 
Originally posted by The TRUTH!!+Apr 2 2006, 12:49 AM-->
Originally posted by Kimmy_The_Kiwi@Apr 1 2006, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@Apr 1 2006, 10:01 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Kimmy_The_Crackhead
@Apr 1 2006, 11:42 AM
AFL isnt their national game.

If any game is their national game, it would be rugby league or cricket.

AFL IS our National game stupid

Its only played in Melbourne :huh:

Cricket is played in victoria, qld & nsw
League is played in melbourne, qld & nsw.

Yeh its ya national sport :rolleyes: just like league is NZ's national game *cough*
I dont know why i bother but...

Sydney Swans (from Sydney
idea3.gif
)
Brisbane Lions (from Brisbane
wwww.gif
)
The rest of the teams are from Melbourne

League is only played in 3 states ,AFL is played in 5

AFL is the most popular sport in Australia by far........ get it? got it? good. [/b]
Actually you're wrong in each of those points... Both the Swans and Lions are FROM South Melbourne and Fitzroy respectively, and the majority of Sydney sports fans still have trouble accepting them as being a "sydney team" (regardless of what Clover Moore thinks).

Also, the NRL and AFL are actually very similar... the AFL is played in 5 state's with 10 teams (12 including the lions and swans) being from melbourne. The NRL is played in FIVE area's (4 states in Aus and then NZ), with 9 teams based in Sydney (then NewCastle making it 10 teams for NSW) and the others in the ACT, Victoria, Qld and New Zealand.

The AFL got a heck of a jump on RL during the Super League war, but before that they were both growing at a similar rate. The irony was that Murdoch assessed both sports to see which he was going to infiltrate and his market research dept produced figures that saw league having the greater market potential... and thus he created the Super League.

As for AFL being by far the most popular... well just as a point of interest, the NRL GF last year generated TV ratings that were about 3 quaters of the AFL's, which is absolutely incredibly considering the AFL GF was a game between 2 non Vic teams and was shown live in every state, whereas the NRL GF was shown live in only a few states and was between 2 heartland state's teams (ie Wests V Nth Qld).
 
Originally posted by sanzar@Apr 2 2006, 12:15 PM
Actually you're wrong (and also gay) in each of those points... Both the Swans and Lions are FROM South Melbourne and Fitzroy respectively, and the majority of Sydney sports fans still have trouble accepting them as being a "sydney team" (regardless of what Clover Moore thinks).

Brisbane Lions are ORIGINALLY from Brisbane (remember the Brisbane Bears?) they merged with Fitzroy when the Afl decided to get rid of the struggling club.(Brisbane would have survived either way......FACT.)

As for Sydney, yeah they were originally the South Melbourne Bloods but they are a Sydney club now (and have been for over 23years!!) no matter how much you hate it and if Sydneysiders dont consider them as there club then why do they get a 30,000+ crowd at every game?.

Both the Swans and Lions get bigger crowds then the average NRL team ,where as the Melbourne Storm are lucky to get 10,000 ppl at there games dispite being one of the most successful clubs in the NRL since there inception .VIC,WA and SA hate League and until the NRL have successful clubs in all 3 states they cant really consider themselves a true National game.

As for AFL being by far the most popular... well just as a point of interest, the NRL GF last year generated TV ratings that were about 3 quaters of the AFL's, which is absolutely incredibly considering the AFL GF was a game between 2 non Vic teams and was shown live in every state, whereas the NRL GF was shown live in only a few states and was between 2 heartland state's teams (ie Wests V Nth Qld). [/b]

Are you saying the ratings would be larger if the Grand Final was between the Warriors and the Storm? or Raiders v Storm/Warriors?

The NRL held there Grand Final on a sunday night where the ratings are far greater than then saturday afternoons(thats the reason why they changed it) ......... so its not so incredible.

Just imagine what the AFL grand final would get if it were played on a sunday night.Hopefully the AFL never go down that road though as the saturday Grand Final party is a tradition for Aussie rules fans ( no matter which teams are playing )and it would be a shame if we had to watch the greatest show in Australian sport on a sunday night just for ratings purposes.


Just as a point of intrest :D
In 2005 the Premiership Season had a total regular season attendance of 6,283,788, and the average attendance of 35,703 was the third highest of any professional sports league in the world!!!!.[/b]


Top 5 highest rating programs of 2005
1 AFL: Grand Final  Ten 3,386
2 AFL: Grand Final Wrap Up  Ten 2,981
3 AFL: Grand Final Pre Match  Ten 2,593
4 NRL: Rugby League Grand Final  Nine 2,563
5 The 2005 Melbourne Cup Carnival  Seven 2,506
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Zomg noobz.[/b]

Neck up you belter©
 
Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@Apr 2 2006, 06:15 PM
As for Sydney, yeah they were originally the South Melbourne Bloods but they are a Sydney club now (and have been for over 23years!!) no matter how much you hate it and if Sydneysiders dont consider them as there club then why do they get a 30,000+ crowd at every game?.
simple, sydney has more people than any other city in Australia and only 1 AFL team... and there are ALOT of victorian ex pats. But AFL does generally have a stronger crowd culture anyway.

Both the Swans and Lions get bigger crowds then the average NRL team ,where as the Melbourne Storm are lucky to get 10,000 ppl at there games dispite being one of the most successful clubs in the NRL since there inception .VIC,WA and SA hate League and until the NRL have successful clubs in all 3 states they cant really consider themselves a true National game.[/b]

Victorians are insular, and we all know that, but as for WA hating league... well correct me if I'm wrong, but I was told by Perth residing mate of my dad's that the Western Red's averaged crowds of 30,000 when they were part of the Super League... Surely if WA hated RL with such a passion, no one would have turned up to their games. Right?

Are you saying the ratings would be larger if the Grand Final was between the Warriors and the Storm? or Raiders v Storm/Warriors?[/b]

Absolutely. The interest level in RL was massive when the Warriors were in the 2002 GF. Are you saying that 900,000 people in Sydney would have watched the AFL GF if Sydney weren't in it?

Just imagine what the AFL grand final would get if it were played on a sunday night.Hopefully the AFL never go down that road though as the saturday Grand Final party is a tradition for Aussie rules fans ( no matter which teams are playing )and it would be a shame if we had to watch the greatest show in Australian sport on a sunday night just for ratings purposes.[/b]

The SOO series each year is played on wednesday's, but still manages to rate in the top 10 of all programming almost every year mate, so I don't know what sunday night has to do with it...


Top 5 highest rating programs of 2005
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1 AFL: Grand Final  Ten 3,386
2 AFL: Grand Final Wrap Up  Ten 2,981
3 AFL: Grand Final Pre Match  Ten 2,593
4 NRL: Rugby League Grand Final  Nine 2,563
5 The 2005 Melbourne Cup Carnival  Seven 2,506
[/b]
[/b][/quote]

I don't think I remember seeing those figures... last time I saw total aggregate ratings that included all country area ratings etc as well (what you've shown me is the aggregate city ratings) and those had the NRL at around 4 million and the AFL at around 5 million... But I can't be f***ed looking it up.

Anyway Truth, all I was saying was that, like it or not, the AFL is not a truly national code... I know it hurts, but it's not, and can't be when 10 teams are from melbourne. But hey, I'm not pretending RL is our national code either... seriously, even you have to admit, soccer (as **** a game as it is) has a MUCH more legitimate claim to being our national code than AFL or NRL, because it's not consentrated in any one area...
 
Originally posted by sanzar@Apr 2 2006, 08:14 PM

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Both the Swans and Lions get bigger crowds then the average NRL team ,where as the Melbourne Storm are lucky to get 10,000 ppl at there games dispite being one of the most successful clubs in the NRL since there inception .VIC,WA and SA hate League and until the NRL have successful clubs in all 3 states they cant really consider themselves a true National game.

Victorians are insular, and we all know that, but as for WA hating league... well correct me if I'm wrong, but I was told by Perth residing mate of my dad's that the Western Red's averaged crowds of 30,000 when they were part of the Super League... Surely if WA hated RL with such a passion, no one would have turned up to their games. Right?

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It was more like 20,000 or just over but West Aussies will support any of our teams. League is not a popular sport over here at all, most ppl have no idea about the game ,there much more into real Rugby as most of the AFL states are.

The only time they ever show it on tv these days is once a week at around 1am on a monday morning because no one watches it.

The SOO series each year is played on wednesday's, but still manages to rate in the top 10 of all programming almost every year mate, so I don't know what sunday night has to do with it...
[/b]

Most ppl are not at home during the day on the weekends, the only program with huge daytime ratings on a saturday/sunday is the AFL GF.

As for SOO on wednesday, I think you'll find that the biggest rating nights are on Sunday through to thursday nights due to most ppl being at home infront of the telly ......... just look at the highest rating shows over the last few years...

Big Brother Final (sunday night)
Australian Idol (sunday night)
Australian Idol final (monday night)
Lost (thursday night)
Desperate Housewives (wednesday/tuesday night)
Dancing with the stars final (Sunday night)
Dancing with the stars (tuesday night)

I don't think I remember seeing those figures... last time I saw total aggregate ratings that included all country area ratings etc as well (what you've shown me is the aggregate city ratings) and those had the NRL at around 4 million and the AFL at around 5 million... But I can't be f***ed looking it up.
[/b]

2005 TV ratings
Leighton in the final of the Aussie Open was actually the highest rating program of the year but it aired in the summer non-rating period. On a sunday night.


Long live the NRL Footy Show but as for the game AFL>NRL for eva!! :bleh!:
 
Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@Apr 2 2006, 08:38 PM

Long live the NRL Footy Show but as for the game AFL>NRL for eva!! :bleh!:
I personally think it'll even out in the next couple decades... As I stated earlier, the reason for the crippling Super League war that gave the AFL such a huge advantage, was that of the 2 codes League looked to have the more potential... AFL will undoubtedly always be incredibly prominent, but the NRL will only continue to grow.
 
Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@Apr 2 2006, 08:38 PM

Big Brother Final (sunday night)
Australian Idol (sunday night)
Australian Idol final (monday night)
Sorry, very off topic, but can I just say of the above: WORST SHOW'S EVER! Especially Big Brother... if you watch it, then you need to get a life.
 
Originally posted by sanzar+Apr 3 2006, 01:58 AM-->
<!--QuoteBegin-The TRUTH!!
@Apr 2 2006, 08:38 PM

Big Brother Final (sunday night)
Australian Idol (sunday night)
Australian Idol final (monday night)
Sorry, very off topic, but can I just say of the above: WORST SHOW'S EVER! Especially Big Brother... if you watch it, then you need to get a life. [/b]
**** ,i dont watch any of these...

Big Brother Final (sunday night)
Australian Idol (sunday night)
Australian Idol final (monday night)
Lost (thursday night)
Desperate Housewives (wednesday/tuesday night)
Dancing with the stars final (Sunday night)
Dancing with the stars (tuesday night)

there all crap...... even Lost
 
Bombers downed the Swans. :D

Good start to the season.

Anyone know of any highlights on the net, apart from the ones on the official sit where you have to sign up to a broadband company?
 
Originally posted by SaintsFan_Webby@Apr 3 2006, 08:00 PM
Anyone know of any highlights on the net, apart from the ones on the official sit where you have to sign up to a broadband company?
Here you go

you can watch every match there(in full), in torrent form

Scotty Lucas had a pretty good game, good win by the Bombers and they did it without Hird..... he pulled out late and watched the game with Ralph Shumacher(lazy prick)
 


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