Super rugby 'power ratings'

[TRF_stormer2010]

A week to week update on the current form of teams in Super rugby. Should be an interesting read (especially coming from the Aus media)

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/super-14-power-rankings

After round 1

1 Waratahs
2 Blues
3 Crusaders
4 Sharks
5 Bulls
6 Brumbies
7 Reds
8 Highlanders
9 Force
10 Stormers
11 Lions
12 Chiefs
13 Hurricanes
14 Cheetahs
15 Rebels

 

[Larksea]

yeah not bad though blues should be top for beating the most successful team in super history bit more of a feat than beating a team in their first ever super game and the highlanders should be higher after what is essentually an away win against a team that is usally in the top 3rd of the competition teams. And yes the Crucaders are a great team and they will surely make the play offs they do afterall have the two best players in the world and a stack of all blacks and furure all black tallent but thrid place even though they lost?

Lions were impressive I fricken hate john Mitch but he could be good for them. Chiefs should have won that game but blew a number of chances - as the season rolls on they will convert most of those so they have a lot of potential.

 

[lance2010]

A week to week update on the current form of teams in Super rugby. Should be an interesting read (especially coming from the Aus media)

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/super-14-power-rankings

After round 1

1 Waratahs
2 Blues
3 Crusaders
4 Sharks
5 Bulls
6 Brumbies
7 Reds
8 Highlanders
9 Force
10 Stormers
11 Lions
12 Chiefs
13 Hurricanes
14 Cheetahs
15 Rebels

How does the Stormers place 10th when they had the bye?
This is my Power Ranking.

1.Blues
2.Highlanders
3.Brumbies
4.Bulls
5.Waratahs
6.Sharks
7.Crusaders
8.Reds
9.Force
10.Lions
11.Chiefs
12.Cheetahs
13.Hurricanes
14.Rebels
15.Stormers

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

How does the Stormers place 10th when they had the bye?
This is my Power Ranking.

1.Blues
2.Highlanders
3.Brumbies
4.Bulls
5.Waratahs
6.Sharks
7.Crusaders
8.Reds
9.Force
10.Lions
11.Chiefs
12.Cheetahs
13.Hurricanes
14.Rebels
15.Stormers

Yeah that does make more sense. Only change I'd probably make is to swap the Cheetahs and Hurricanes. Probably the Waratahs should be higher; I know the Rebels are a new team but the 'Tahs did beat them soundly and looked in form while doing it. And even though the Bulls/Brumbies/Sharks won their matches I think the Crusaders did look more threatening. LOL, its a difficult assignment.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

1 Waratahs
2 Blues
3 Crusaders
4 Bulls
5 Sharks
6 Highlanders
7 Brumbies
8 Reds
9 Stormers
10 Chiefs
11 Hurricanes
12 Lions
13 Force
14 Cheetahs
15 Rebels

 

[TNT88]

1. Blues
2. Waratahs
3. Brumbies
4. Highlanders
5. Sharks
6. Crusaders
7. Reds
8. Bulls
9. Force
10. Lions
11. Hurricanes
12. Chiefs
13. Cheetahs
14. Rebels
15. Stormers

 

[lance2010]

Yeah that does make more sense. Only change I'd probably make is to swap the Cheetahs and Hurricanes. Probably the Waratahs should be higher; I know the Rebels are a new team but the 'Tahs did beat them soundly and looked in form while doing it. And even though the Bulls/Brumbies/Sharks won their matches I think the Crusaders did look more threatening. LOL, its a difficult assignment.

I placed the Waratahs 5th due to the fact they hammered a new and clueless Rebels teams many of the top 6 teams would of done the same,hence their 5th place.The Blues top and the Highlanders deserve 2nd not many gave them any hope.I placed the Crusaders lower plainly they lost.Maybe i could have swapped the Crusaders with the Bulls for the way they played.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

1 Waratahs
2 Bulls
3 Crusaders
4 Blues
5 Sharks
6 Highlanders
7 Brumbies
8 Reds
9 Stormers
10 Chiefs
11 Hurricanes
12 Lions
13 Force
14 Cheetahs
15 Rebels

Week 2

1 Waratahs (-)
2 Bulls (-)
3 Crusaders (-)
4 Sharks (Up 1)
5 Blues (Down 1)
6 Highlanders (-)
7 Stormers (Up 2)
8 Brumbies (Down 1)
9 Reds (Down 1)
10 Lions (Up 2)
11 Chiefs (Down 1)
12 Hurricanes (Down 1)
13 Rebels (Up 2)
14 Force (Down 1)
15 Cheetahs (Down 1)

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

'Power rankings' after week 2 according to rugbyheaven.com.au (SMH)

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/super-14-power-rankings

1. NSW Waratahs (1)
2. Sharks (4)
3. Bulls (5)
4.Highlanders (8)
5. Crusaders (3)
6. Blues (2)
7. Stormers (10)
8. Force (9)
9. Lions (11)
10. Brumbies (6)
11. Reds (7)
12. Rebels (15)
13. Hurricanes (13)
14. Cheetahs (14)
15. Chiefs (15)

Early days yet (I mean the Stormers and Force have had only 1 game FFS - so too the Hurricanes and Crusaders I guess) and this type of 'form-o-meter' was always going to be a bit skewed early on. Still an interesting read though (I suggest you follow the link and read their motivations before commenting)

Somehow I feel the Force and Lions should be below the Brumbies. I don't know maybe it is because the Brumbies have actually won a game?

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

Didn't the Force lose to the Reds...?

I think mine is a fairer indication.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Didn't the Force lose to the Reds...?

I think mine is a fairer indication.

Agree 100%

 

[Larksea]

Highlanders by all rights should claim the top spot this week after picking up 5 points playing the bulls in Pretoria sharks 2nd then Crucaders then maybe the Blues to round out the top 4. Big week for NZ teams with the all important wins over teams in other Confrences. Even the chiefs should jump well off the bottom.

hurricanes are still an unknown factor though after 3 rounds and only one game played. that could either work for or against them in the long run.

 

[dan the man]

Yeah, it's pretty safe to say that the Highlanders are in a very good place right now... If they manage to put away the Stormers next week then POW! they'll really be the team to beat this season!

 

[Larksea]

They would have to be Fav's to win the stormers game too. I saw extended highlights of their last game against the Cheetahs and they weren't overly impressive. From what I have seen of the SA teams.

1, Sharks - are the best SA side right now and will be tough to beat.
2, Bulls - Havn't really impressed yet in their 3 games but they have potential to get better.
3, Stormers - Similar situation to the bulls but not quite as much potential to improve.
4, Lions - Still without a win but look like they have improved with their new coaching staff, I rate them above the cheetahs due to their attacking ability which looks sound.
5, Cheetahs - they have got 2 bonus points but going tryless on a hard & Fast ground like they did last weekend must be a worry...

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

Week 2

1 Waratahs (-)
2 Bulls (-)
3 Crusaders (-)
4 Sharks (Up 1)
5 Blues (Down 1)
6 Highlanders (-)
7 Stormers (Up 2)
8 Brumbies (Down 1)
9 Reds (Down 1)
10 Lions (Up 2)
11 Chiefs (Down 1)
12 Hurricanes (Down 1)
13 Rebels (Up 2)
14 Force (Down 1)
15 Cheetahs (Down 1)

Week 3

1 Crusaders (Up 2)
2 Sharks (Up 2)
3 Waratahs (Down 2)
4 Bulls (Down 2)
5 Highlanders (Up 1)
6 Blues (Down 1)
7 Reds (Up 2)
8 Chiefs (Up 3)
9 Stormers (Down 2)
10 Brumbies (Down 2)
11 Hurricanes (Up 1)
12 Lions (Down 2)
13 Rebels (-)
14 Force (-)
15 Cheetahs (-)

A lot of movement this round, in my opinion. The lateout of the top six I'm still unsure of, the rules make it quite difficult to predict - logically speaking both the Blues and the Highlanders won't make the top 6, but yeah...

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Latest upadate

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/super-14-power-rankings?rand=1299636738524

1 Sharks
2 Highlanders
3 Stormers are given the benefit of the doubt
4 Crusaders
5 Waratahs
6 Blues
7 Bulls
8 Reds
9 Chiefs
10 Brumbies
11 Hurricanes also an unknown
12 Force
13 Rebels
14 Lions
15 Cheetahs

A little more accurate if you do give the Stormers the benefit of the doubt. Predictions for next week; Lions to move ahead of Force and Rebels, Stormers to stay put and Crusaders to swap with Highlanders.

 

[TNT88]

SMH did a decent job this week. My take so far:

1 Highlanders
2 Sharks
3 Crusaders
4 Waratahs
5 Stormers
6 Blues
7 Bulls
8 Reds
9 Chiefs
10 Brumbies
11 Hurricanes
12 Force
13 Rebels
14 Lions
15 Cheetahs

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/super-14-power-rankings?rand=1300248672563

Latest changes according to SMH.

1 Sharks
2 Crusaders
3 Stormers
4 Highlanders
5 Waratahs
6 Blues
7 Bulls
8 Reds
9 Hurricanes
10 Force
11 Chiefs
12 Lions
13 Rebels
14 Brumbies
15 Cheetahs

Pretty fair for this stage but I think the Brumbies are a better (or at least should be a better) team than both Chiefs and Force.

Latest upadate

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/super-14-power-rankings?rand=1299636738524

1 Sharks
2 Highlanders
3 Stormers are given the benefit of the doubt
4 Crusaders
5 Waratahs
6 Blues
7 Bulls
8 Reds
9 Chiefs
10 Brumbies
11 Hurricanes also an unknown
12 Force
13 Rebels
14 Lions
15 Cheetahs

A little more accurate if you do give the Stormers the benefit of the doubt. Predictions for next week; Lions to move ahead of Force and Rebels, Stormers to stay put and Crusaders to swap with Highlanders.

Not bad if I may say so myself.

I would have backed the Lions for a win over the Force this week but wi Doppies out... gonna be tricky but I'm going to back them to climb ahead of the Force and Chiefs. Cheetahs to remain wooden spooners. Highlanders and Waratahs to swap and that will be that IMO.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/super-14-power-rankings?rand=1300856189707

Latest update as per SMH

. Crusaders<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 1Last week: 2</CITE> They’re not unbeaten, but are the only team dispatching the opposition in style. They look unstoppable at the moment.
2. Stormers

<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 4Last week: 3</CITE> The only unbeaten team in the tournament doubled their tryscoring tally for the tournament when they crossed twice against the Bulls. They have yet to play outside of South Africa and only once outside of Cape Town. 3. Sharks

<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 4Last week: 1</CITE> Lost their first game of the season against the Chiefs, but after Monday morning’s clash at Twickenham against the Crusaders, the remaining fixtures will be in the Republic. It augurs well. 4. Blues

<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 4Last week: 6</CITE> Were flattered by the scoreline against the Hurricanes, but undoubtedly were the deserved winners. Results don’t lie. The Blues are fifth with the South African tour behind them. 5. Reds

<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 4Last week: 8</CITE> Have yet to play outside of Australia but beginning to show some form. The demolition of the Rebels met expectations rather than exceeded them.6. Highlanders

<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 4Last week: 4</CITE> Has their run come to an end? Back-to-back losses have raised doubts, but the depleted Highlanders have some respite with the bye. 7. Force

<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 1Last week: 10</CITE> Won their first game on the weekend but they have been competitive every week despite a mounting injury toll. 8. Chiefs

<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 0Last week: 11</CITE> Toughed it out against the Sharks and got the points. However, flyhalf Stephen Donald is injured which is bad news for the Chiefs and good news for All Blacks fans. 9. Bulls

<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 4Last week: 7</CITE> The RugbyHeaven types are divided. Are the Bulls on the wane or are they pacing themselves for a big back-end of the season? This writer is in the former camp. 10. Waratahs

<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 5Last week: 5</CITE> Being the victim of the Cheetahs’ first-ever win in Australasia is disastrous, but losing by 20 points is almost unfathomable. Where to now? 11. Hurricanes

<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 1Last week: 9</CITE> Are behind the eight-ball in the New Zealand conference, but unlike the Chiefs in the early part of the season, coach Mark Hammett is not panicking and sticking with his first-choice line-up. 12. Cheetahs

<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 0Last week: 15</CITE> A win was coming, but the expectation was it would be after they returned to the Republic. Enter the Waratahs. 13. Brumbies

<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 4Last week: 14</CITE> The Brumbies must have dreaded the Cheetahs’ result against the Waratahs. Both teams now have legitimate claims to have their backs to the walls when they line-up in what is a race to the bottom. 14. Lions

<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 1Last week: 12</CITE> After beating the Cheetahs, the Lions had high hopes of securing back-to-back wins. Old losing habits die hard. 15. Rebels

<CITE ***le="Points scored">Points scored: 0Last week: 13</CITE> They’re a tough team to beat at AAMI Park but their record on the road is ugly reading: 13 points, 91

 

[hazdog]

quade cooper and will genia are starting to look unstoppable when their forward pack is moving. with Rod Davies and Digby Ioane out wide two thumpings in two weeks puts them up there:

imo so far:

1. crusaders
2. stormers
3. reds
4. sharks
5. blues
6.highlanders
7. bulls
8. waratahs
9. brumbies
10. chiefs
11. hurricanes
12. rebels
13. cheetahs
14. force
15. lions


Don't go flaming on the last six, there all very close togethor imo, changes week to week