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Super Rugby play-offs: Crusaders - Bulls in Christchurch (21/07/2012)
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<blockquote data-quote="Shovenose" data-source="post: 517419" data-attributes="member: 62077"><p>I think you are making the wrong assumptions and do not understand what he really is saying. Maybe calling someone a cheat no one will really look at from anything other than a inflammatory point of view as it is such a ugly word in sport. But basically he is right when he says the Crusaders are masters at manupilating the ref. Or let me go one further and say NZ are masters at it. Maybe because your a Kiwi and are use to it you do not notice it but others do. To show you what I mean Wayne Smith said it the best</p><p></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.therugbysite.com/blog_posts/133-andy-ellis-was-a-huge-part-in-our-world-cup-win-by-wayne-smith" target="_blank">http://www.therugbysite.com/blog_posts/133-andy-ellis-was-a-huge-part-in-our-world-cup-win-by-wayne-smith</a></p><p></p><p>What a number 7 does is irrelevant. They still need to abide by the laws and breaking the rules and see if you can get away with it is not in the spirit of the game. I am not talking about McCaw specifically there but all those you mentioned as well. And slowing the ball down close to your try line and get pinged for it surely constitutes as a professional foul. Why can some get away with it where others get sin binned for it? If you look at the YC per penalty ratio you will note that SA and Australia avg 6 penalties per YC in the Tri Nations and a team like NZ around 40 per YC. That is a massive difference and from a team who concedes the most penalties in a game at avg in it. If that figures were reversed surely you would have scratched your head and asked some questions as well. But if it favors you you will dismiss anything around it or anything someone mention about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shovenose, post: 517419, member: 62077"] I think you are making the wrong assumptions and do not understand what he really is saying. Maybe calling someone a cheat no one will really look at from anything other than a inflammatory point of view as it is such a ugly word in sport. But basically he is right when he says the Crusaders are masters at manupilating the ref. Or let me go one further and say NZ are masters at it. Maybe because your a Kiwi and are use to it you do not notice it but others do. To show you what I mean Wayne Smith said it the best [url]http://www.therugbysite.com/blog_posts/133-andy-ellis-was-a-huge-part-in-our-world-cup-win-by-wayne-smith[/url] What a number 7 does is irrelevant. They still need to abide by the laws and breaking the rules and see if you can get away with it is not in the spirit of the game. I am not talking about McCaw specifically there but all those you mentioned as well. And slowing the ball down close to your try line and get pinged for it surely constitutes as a professional foul. Why can some get away with it where others get sin binned for it? If you look at the YC per penalty ratio you will note that SA and Australia avg 6 penalties per YC in the Tri Nations and a team like NZ around 40 per YC. That is a massive difference and from a team who concedes the most penalties in a game at avg in it. If that figures were reversed surely you would have scratched your head and asked some questions as well. But if it favors you you will dismiss anything around it or anything someone mention about it. [/QUOTE]
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