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Super Rugby: Hurricanes - Chiefs in Wellington (13/07/2012)
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<blockquote data-quote="Larksea" data-source="post: 517042" data-attributes="member: 43875"><p>M= 18 handles - 10 passes</p><p>V= 13 handles - 4 passes</p><p></p><p>basically proves my point, that messam was playing as a link man trying to put players into space rather than taking the ball to the line - hey someone's got to do it because Cruden seems to leave it to everyone else... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> other games he works the blindside more commits to the line and gains a lot more meters. What Messam does with ball in hand seems to vary with the game plan/opposition.</p><p></p><p>It shows the game plan rather than his ability to get over the gain line. Where the Canes used Vito for that the chiefs would likely have used SBW. and had Messam Cleaning up.</p><p></p><p>Stats also show without question who had the higher workload.</p><p></p><p>also shows how there is such a big variation between what stats you look at. I've also seen how if a commentator gets a players name wrong like they often do then that ends up being a mistake in the stats.</p><p></p><p>Stats also don't show ruck arrivals. pretty critical stat for Loose Forwards, an area Messam is strong in and I think the area that separates McCaw from basically anyone else in world rugby.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Larksea, post: 517042, member: 43875"] M= 18 handles - 10 passes V= 13 handles - 4 passes basically proves my point, that messam was playing as a link man trying to put players into space rather than taking the ball to the line - hey someone's got to do it because Cruden seems to leave it to everyone else... :p other games he works the blindside more commits to the line and gains a lot more meters. What Messam does with ball in hand seems to vary with the game plan/opposition. It shows the game plan rather than his ability to get over the gain line. Where the Canes used Vito for that the chiefs would likely have used SBW. and had Messam Cleaning up. Stats also show without question who had the higher workload. also shows how there is such a big variation between what stats you look at. I've also seen how if a commentator gets a players name wrong like they often do then that ends up being a mistake in the stats. Stats also don't show ruck arrivals. pretty critical stat for Loose Forwards, an area Messam is strong in and I think the area that separates McCaw from basically anyone else in world rugby. [/QUOTE]
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