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Super 15: Cheetahs - Crusaders in Bloemfontein (14-05-2011)
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<blockquote data-quote="Shaggy" data-source="post: 400604" data-attributes="member: 43400"><p>... Well, at the risk of being branded a Kiwi arse kisser <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p> </p><p>The New Zealand conference is more tightly contested than the Australian conference, just about any New Zealand team can beat any other on the day, and the margins between the winning and losing teams are usually very close. The Reds and the Tahs to some extent get an arm chair ride against the other Australian franchises, so yes, the Reds would find it more difficult if they were playing in the New Zealand conference ... history confirms this, you only need to look at the Super 14 and Super 12 standing when there were no conferences to see the lack of success of the Australian sides - if this wasn't the case, why wouldn't they have kept the competition as it was, and let the most successful sides of the season fight out the finals after playing each other once, instead of manufacturing the result so that a side from each nation gets into the final series</p><p></p><p>I don't agree with your opinion of the relative weakness of the teams either ... being a Crusaders fan,if I was looking for an easier game was the only criteria, I know which teams i'd rather play twice, and it isn't the Chiefs, Highlanders, and Hurricanes </p><p></p><p>You can't discount the Highlanders (or the Waratahs, and Bulls for that matter) as serious contenders as all of your top 5 teams have some pretty tough games left to play</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Really? which Kiwis? ... No excuses if a New Zealand team doesn't win the tournament ... even if the top six sides don't turn out to be the strongest six, the top team from each nation will be there, so if a New zealand team doesn't win the whole thing, they won't have been good enough - end of story ... nothing wrong with a bit of healthy debate about the relative strengths of the various conferences is there?</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Well, the Crusaders were beaten by a better side on the day - congrats Cheetahs ... doesn't make the Crusaders bad though, anymore than it makes the Reds bad losing to the Hurricanes</p><p> </p><p>... I bet those nasty Crusaders fans go out of their way to find threads where the Crusaders haven't even played in, and gloat when a team/group of supporters they don't like lose, as well <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>... just in case you are wondering, I jumped on the Crusaders bandwagon back in 1996, and haven't fallen off yet <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> ... I like the fact that they consistently have a strong team, and that they win most of their games. I'd like to see them take this years ***le, but won't slit my wrists if they don't ... if the Reds are good enough to win it, well and good, I enjoy seeing my team play and hopefully win - I don't get (and don't need to) satisfaction out of seeing other teams lose.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shaggy, post: 400604, member: 43400"] ... Well, at the risk of being branded a Kiwi arse kisser :D The New Zealand conference is more tightly contested than the Australian conference, just about any New Zealand team can beat any other on the day, and the margins between the winning and losing teams are usually very close. The Reds and the Tahs to some extent get an arm chair ride against the other Australian franchises, so yes, the Reds would find it more difficult if they were playing in the New Zealand conference ... history confirms this, you only need to look at the Super 14 and Super 12 standing when there were no conferences to see the lack of success of the Australian sides - if this wasn't the case, why wouldn't they have kept the competition as it was, and let the most successful sides of the season fight out the finals after playing each other once, instead of manufacturing the result so that a side from each nation gets into the final series I don't agree with your opinion of the relative weakness of the teams either ... being a Crusaders fan,if I was looking for an easier game was the only criteria, I know which teams i'd rather play twice, and it isn't the Chiefs, Highlanders, and Hurricanes You can't discount the Highlanders (or the Waratahs, and Bulls for that matter) as serious contenders as all of your top 5 teams have some pretty tough games left to play Really? which Kiwis? ... No excuses if a New Zealand team doesn't win the tournament ... even if the top six sides don't turn out to be the strongest six, the top team from each nation will be there, so if a New zealand team doesn't win the whole thing, they won't have been good enough - end of story ... nothing wrong with a bit of healthy debate about the relative strengths of the various conferences is there? Well, the Crusaders were beaten by a better side on the day - congrats Cheetahs ... doesn't make the Crusaders bad though, anymore than it makes the Reds bad losing to the Hurricanes ... I bet those nasty Crusaders fans go out of their way to find threads where the Crusaders haven't even played in, and gloat when a team/group of supporters they don't like lose, as well :p ... just in case you are wondering, I jumped on the Crusaders bandwagon back in 1996, and haven't fallen off yet :) ... I like the fact that they consistently have a strong team, and that they win most of their games. I'd like to see them take this years ***le, but won't slit my wrists if they don't ... if the Reds are good enough to win it, well and good, I enjoy seeing my team play and hopefully win - I don't get (and don't need to) satisfaction out of seeing other teams lose. [/QUOTE]
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