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Rassie
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We, officially, suck, pretty bad ! :wall:
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The TRUTH
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Dont worry it was far from your best team
Looks like your in for an injury plagued year like we had last year.
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Rassie
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We are fooling ourselves to consider we have a decent team! Nope, we are crap! I`m crying my soul to say this but that`s the truth! We suck!
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Dumbo
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Easy Rassie, it's all part of the plan... lulling everyone into a false sense of security... then whamo come tri nations time.
Anyway they still one, they looked like an England team but they still one.
Anyway they still one, they looked like an England team but they still one.
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woosaah
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what was the score?
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Dumbo
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For those that didn't manage to stay awake: SA15 30-27
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woosaah
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real? close
it just wasnt on normal sky which i was hoping for. was staying up for it and then realised only on the rugby channel
how dumb is that
it just wasnt on normal sky which i was hoping for. was staying up for it and then realised only on the rugby channel
how dumb is that
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Gay-Guy
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Yeah Rassie....you S.A. guys are playing games with us..........betcha come tri-nations time the real S.A. team will come.....
History only knows winners......40 years from now if anyone inquires they will see a S.A victory last Saturday and will not care that Montgomery kicked 10 penalties in a row....did I say 10? :lol:
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TheBokke
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Very true GG. Look at some of the past scores we never exactly thumped a world 15 before.
26 August 1989: South Africa vs World XV at Newlands
South Africa 20
World XV 19
Newlands provided a wet, muddy surface and especially in the second half of the Test, the visiting pack dominated. The Springboks, with rookie locks Adolf Malan and Niel Hugo, had huge problems in the line-outs, where visiting Australian referee Kerry FitzGerald blew them to pieces for lifting. The World team used the flair of the French backs Philippe Sella, Dennis Charvet, Frank Mesnel and Pierre Berbizier to great effect.
Injuries also took a toll, and both Naas Botha and Johan Heunis had to be replaced. Botha, though, provided the turning point of the Test when he intercepted 60m out for a score. Kobus Burger, Faffa Knoetze, Heinrich Rodgers, Hugo, Malan and André Joubert got their first caps.
Scorers:
For South Africa:
Tries: Knoetze, Botha, Smal.
Con: Botha.
Pens: Botha 2
For the World XV:
Tries: Rodriguez, Sella, Williams.
Cons: Charvet 2
Pen: Charvet.
Teams
South Africa: JW Heunis (AJ Joubert), JM Burger, F Knoetze, MJ du Plessis, CJ du Plessis, HE Botha (HL Müller), GD Wright, JC Breedt (captain), GP Smal, Stade Bordelais Geldenhuys, AW Malan, DP Hugo, PR van der Merwe, UL Schmidt, PH Rodgers.
World XV: GJ Martin (Australia), IM Williams (Australia), P Sella (France), D Charvet (France), MR Hall (Wales), F Mesnel (France), P Berbizier (France) (captain), L Rodriguez (France), PJ Winterbottom (England), MC Teague (England), RJ McCall (Australia), WA Campbell (Australia), JA Probyn (England), TA Lawton (Australia), PAG Rendall (England).
Referee: KVJ FitzGerald (Australia).
2 September 1989: South Africa vs World XV at Ellis Park
South Africa 22
World XV 16
Excellent defence by the backs laid the foundation for the Springboks' 22-16 win at Ellis Park, but it was the performance of Johan Heunis that will be remembered most. Although not 100 percent fit, Heunis scored a great opportunist try and was as solid as the Rock of Gibraltar at the back. Naas Botha, also not fully fit, had his kicking boots on and scored 14 points.
The Springboks had lost first-choice prop Jan Lock before the first Test and his replacement, Flip van der Merwe, also cried off with an injury before the second. This forced the selectors to play Frans Erasmus at tighthead, not his preferred position on the other side of the scrum. The move backfired and the Springboks battled in the scrums.
For only the second time ever the Springbok pack conceded a push-over try in a Test match. Although it came in the dying seconds of the game, it left the lasting impression that the Springboks were not the force of old up front.
The World XV started strongly and played all the rugby in the first 20 minutes. After losing Welsh lock Robert Norster though, they lost some spark. Botha's boot and the heroics from Heunis saved the day for the Springboks.
Scorers:
For South Africa:
Tries: Heunis, MJ du Plessis
Con: Botha
Pens: Botha 3
Drop: Botha
For the World XV:
Tries: Williams, Berbizier
Con: Martin
Pens: Charvet, Martin.
Teams
South Africa: JW Heunis, JM Burger, F Knoetze, MJ du Plessis, CJ du Plessis, HE Botha, GD Wright, JC Breedt (captain), GP Smal, Stade Bordelais Geldenhuys, AW Malan, DP Hugo, FS Erasmus, UL Schmidt, PH Rodgers.
World XV: GJ Martin (Australia), IM Williams (Australia), P Sella (France), D Charvet (France), MR Hall (Wales), F Mesnel (France), P Berbizier (France) (captain), L Rodriguez (France), PJ Winterbottom (England), M Cecillon (France), RJ McCall (Australia), RL Norster (Wales) (PT Davies - Wales), J-P Garuet-Lempirou (France), TA Lawton (Australia), PAG Rendall (England
26 August 1989: South Africa vs World XV at Newlands
South Africa 20
World XV 19
Newlands provided a wet, muddy surface and especially in the second half of the Test, the visiting pack dominated. The Springboks, with rookie locks Adolf Malan and Niel Hugo, had huge problems in the line-outs, where visiting Australian referee Kerry FitzGerald blew them to pieces for lifting. The World team used the flair of the French backs Philippe Sella, Dennis Charvet, Frank Mesnel and Pierre Berbizier to great effect.
Injuries also took a toll, and both Naas Botha and Johan Heunis had to be replaced. Botha, though, provided the turning point of the Test when he intercepted 60m out for a score. Kobus Burger, Faffa Knoetze, Heinrich Rodgers, Hugo, Malan and André Joubert got their first caps.
Scorers:
For South Africa:
Tries: Knoetze, Botha, Smal.
Con: Botha.
Pens: Botha 2
For the World XV:
Tries: Rodriguez, Sella, Williams.
Cons: Charvet 2
Pen: Charvet.
Teams
South Africa: JW Heunis (AJ Joubert), JM Burger, F Knoetze, MJ du Plessis, CJ du Plessis, HE Botha (HL Müller), GD Wright, JC Breedt (captain), GP Smal, Stade Bordelais Geldenhuys, AW Malan, DP Hugo, PR van der Merwe, UL Schmidt, PH Rodgers.
World XV: GJ Martin (Australia), IM Williams (Australia), P Sella (France), D Charvet (France), MR Hall (Wales), F Mesnel (France), P Berbizier (France) (captain), L Rodriguez (France), PJ Winterbottom (England), MC Teague (England), RJ McCall (Australia), WA Campbell (Australia), JA Probyn (England), TA Lawton (Australia), PAG Rendall (England).
Referee: KVJ FitzGerald (Australia).
2 September 1989: South Africa vs World XV at Ellis Park
South Africa 22
World XV 16
Excellent defence by the backs laid the foundation for the Springboks' 22-16 win at Ellis Park, but it was the performance of Johan Heunis that will be remembered most. Although not 100 percent fit, Heunis scored a great opportunist try and was as solid as the Rock of Gibraltar at the back. Naas Botha, also not fully fit, had his kicking boots on and scored 14 points.
The Springboks had lost first-choice prop Jan Lock before the first Test and his replacement, Flip van der Merwe, also cried off with an injury before the second. This forced the selectors to play Frans Erasmus at tighthead, not his preferred position on the other side of the scrum. The move backfired and the Springboks battled in the scrums.
For only the second time ever the Springbok pack conceded a push-over try in a Test match. Although it came in the dying seconds of the game, it left the lasting impression that the Springboks were not the force of old up front.
The World XV started strongly and played all the rugby in the first 20 minutes. After losing Welsh lock Robert Norster though, they lost some spark. Botha's boot and the heroics from Heunis saved the day for the Springboks.
Scorers:
For South Africa:
Tries: Heunis, MJ du Plessis
Con: Botha
Pens: Botha 3
Drop: Botha
For the World XV:
Tries: Williams, Berbizier
Con: Martin
Pens: Charvet, Martin.
Teams
South Africa: JW Heunis, JM Burger, F Knoetze, MJ du Plessis, CJ du Plessis, HE Botha, GD Wright, JC Breedt (captain), GP Smal, Stade Bordelais Geldenhuys, AW Malan, DP Hugo, FS Erasmus, UL Schmidt, PH Rodgers.
World XV: GJ Martin (Australia), IM Williams (Australia), P Sella (France), D Charvet (France), MR Hall (Wales), F Mesnel (France), P Berbizier (France) (captain), L Rodriguez (France), PJ Winterbottom (England), M Cecillon (France), RJ McCall (Australia), RL Norster (Wales) (PT Davies - Wales), J-P Garuet-Lempirou (France), TA Lawton (Australia), PAG Rendall (England
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Gay-Guy
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Yep exactly.....all I can see through all that info is one thing.....S.A. won and the world lost........nevermind who scored....I mean...who cares who scored.......or how they scored.......
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Dumbo
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Hope your boys smash the Scott's!
Long story but just watching Boks v World XV 1989 matches and wondering what happened to the career of Jaco Reinach between the Boks v NZ Cavaliers matches in 1986 and 1989 such that Kobus Burger had the right wing spot in 1989. And then what happened such that Kobus Burger was replaced by James Small for the 1992 'return' test against the All Blacks. Interested in anything that you might have. The internet hasn't provided anything. It might, of course, just be what happened with the space between Boks' matches in those times. Thanks.
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