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Socialist lowlife condones anarchy

What a d*ckhead.

Then again, it's not as if his family are multi-millionaires, he probably wont be able to afford to go to uni when this kicks in....oh wait
 
So one of the richest Students in the world - with more in his wallet at any given moment then any annual fee - was protesting about the fees (when he won't have to pay them anyway) and vandalising public property?

That's socialism for you...
 
Apologises for the mistake ... sorry surely if the country wanted to make an example they would throw the book at him, still think the police should have been allowed to open fire with rubber bullets.
 
Should have tazered him as he was swinging off the flag,
Could've made £250 from You've Been Framed and whatever RudeTube will pay them for the footage of him breaking his neck as he fell
 
Bullitt said:
So one of the richest Students in the world - with more in his wallet at any given moment then any annual fee - was protesting about the fees (when he won't have to pay them anyway) and vandalising public property?

That's socialism for you...
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Nice bit of logic there...
 
in fairness, i don't think the student protests have any direct relation to socialism besides the fact that the people want the government to spend more money on them.
i'd say these protests are more about self-interest than any overarching ideology that combats the coalition...

also, a lot of students vote lib dem and feel betrayed by them.
 
<table class="contentpaneopen"><tbody><tr><td class="contentheading" width="100%">DAVE GILMOUR TO WRITE 48-HOUR LONG ROCK OPERA ABOUT CENOTAPHS </td> <td class="buttonheading" width="100%" align="right"> </td> <td class="buttonheading" width="100%" align="right"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table class="contentpaneopen"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="2" class="createdate" valign="top"> 13-12-10 </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" valign="top"> PINK Floyd legend Dave Gilmour is to explore his son's defilement of the cenotaph with a rock opera that will last for about two days.

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Bob lives in a shabby bedsit and works in Whitehall​
Gilmour said the only way he could begin to understand son Charlie's actions was through the power of his dreary music that never seems to end.

The opera, entitled We Are The Cenotaphs, will be a conceptual exploration of what it means to be a large block of stone with some flags attached to it.

The lead character will be an ordinary cenotaph called Bob who will write long, anguished letters to other cenotaphs in cities across the world who, in turn, will share their experiences with him.

According to Gilmour the opera will have virtually no lyrics as the cenotaphs will communicate with each other using only guitar solos.

Describing the show as a 'slightly shorter version of Dark Side of the Moon', he added: "When Charlie said he didn't even know it was the Cenotaph, I knew there was only one way I could explain it to him. Well, actually, there were two ways, but the other one didn't need guitars and massive, inflatable cenotaphs.

"I've already written two songs. One is called Stop Swinging on My Flags, Charlie and the other one is called Remembrance Sunday. That one's about nine hours long. So far."

But Gilmour has also blamed himself admitting that he should probably have stopped sitting in one of his vintage Ferraris for abut 20 minutes to explain the concept of 'means testing' to his wayward son.

Tom Logan, a man with an opinion from Stevenage, said: "I was of course appalled and angry to see this young hooligan swinging from the cenotaph like a be-Doc-Martened gibbon, but I think having to listen to anything by Dave Gilmour is punishment enough."
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St Helens RLFC said:
Hang on, I'm not on an attractive salary, and I've got an iPhone!
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I guess your iPhone is subsidised by the phone company that rips you off for 24 months.

Education costs are far too high. The funding of the system drives malinvestment, and those funds largely come from subsidies, including the student loans provided by hilariously crooked banks. Happens right across the UK economy.

If the students want to protest, get them to Threadneedle St and Canary Wharf. But they're too farking stupid to locate the real source of their pain. An even better protest would be to find a productive life - including job satisfaction - without the debt.

It takes a nation of Idiots.
 
Silly little twat shouldn't have put himself in that position then refused to move when ordered to. Disabled or not, you put yourself in a position where it's going to go off you should expect it. Supposedly he's got a long history of form, including having someone hoist him onto that roof a couple of weeks ago.

+1 Supporter of the Police here.
 
Have to agree,
It looks bad on the video/him going on BBC News and bleating on about it/people kicking off because of it, but it's not as if the police are roaming around looking for people in wheelchairs to tackle, it would've been for a reason, whether because he refused to do whatever it was, or was causing a nuisance or for his own safety or whatever
 
First of all, I don't condone what has happened in some of the marches. However, this is a serious issue which every student should be protesting against (except us Architecture students who have no time for anything else but work :(). The planned increase in tuition fees is a complete and utter joke, and one which will partly result in the Conservatives and Li Dems having no chance in hell at the next general election.

I agree with some of what Bullit and others have said in this thread, in that there are too many meaningless degrees on offer, however increasing tuition fees by such a margin (min £6,000, max £9,000) is not the correct way to sort that issue. This is just another hamfisted way to reduce costs. I will be leaving uni with close to £35,000 worth of debt as it is already, and that's with £2,000 a year in grants from the Welsh Assembly, something English students don't get. Although that's also with £7,000 debt from my previous stint at uni. If these increases effect my 5th and 6th year, add another £6,000 on top again. Now if I were an English student from a poor backround looking to become an architect under new fees, I'd leave uni with between £52,500 and £67,500 worth of debt!!!!! That is not acceptable atall.

With the combination of the Tauries pretty much axing jobs left, right and centre meaning unemployment is likely going to soar, and university being priced out of the water for all but the rich, what exactly are people going to do with their lives. I've had just about enough of this bloody government and were not even a year into their reign. If they drag us out of recession, it will be because of luck that their gambling with the economy (just as the banks did who got us into this mess in the first place) happened to pay off. How many people leaving school will be forced to sign onto the dole because there's simply no other option, no jobs and no education routes???

I tell you one thing, it's better to have an educated society than one that simply live off handouts, although some of the Conservative measures to reducing those claiming benefits etc. are well overdue. Universities love running the 'dumb' courses, as they require little facilites, and therefore bring in lots of money with little outlay, however these courses need to be closely monitored and either axed or limited in number.
 
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Dullonien, I agree that education is vital - for the economy and the individual - because it's the only hope of keeping inequality of income in check. Without it, the banks and the state will ultimately declare that everyone's money belongs to them.

The big question: why are students so stupid as to take on that amount of debt? If they have no choice (they do really, get a job instead), why aren't they protesting directly against the banks and against the universities who depend on the banks? The Dons and the dons are not your friends, they're your enemies.

Chucking paint at a royal rolls royce is surely very satisfying, but burning down a bank HQ would be much more effective.
 
Not too sure where the banks come into thingd shtove? The loans for tuition fees and living expenses are handled by the Student Loans Company. They are not controlled by the banks, but an independant company set-up by the government. I'm not all that happy that the debt was sold off by the government last year, as I'm worried about how the debt will be handled by a private company.

It's also the governemnt who part fund the universities, something this government has cut by an allmighty amount, resulting in this increase of tuition fees to cover the costs.

Am I missing something blatant here that I've overlooked?

As for why students are prepared to take on such debt. Well, that's often the only choice. For every student on some stupid pointless degree, there are many, many more who simply need a degree to get anywhere in their chosen field. You cannot become an architect without doing the full 5 years in university, simple as that. The same is similar for many other professions. Many employers nowherdays are also unwilling to basically fund the learning of their staff, instead they want qualified people from the off, even in jobs involving art etc.

My brother has found it increadibly difficult to find a decent job as a matte painter / animator, even with a degree from one of the top universities in the world for animation (glanmorgan). He's still had to spend the last few years as a runner in London earning less than £12,000 a year. He'd have had no chance in hell without a degree! Luckily for him, Wales have much better education policies than England, and he was able to get a full grant towards his tuition fees, aswell as grants towards living costs. Welsh students staying in Wales still get free higher education, although I'm not sure if that's sustainable under the new pricing structure.
 
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When you say get a job ... are there really many that out there? Jobs are drying up, one of my mates applied for a job in town for a remedial work for just the minimum wage, over 100 applications for the job! There are not many jobs out there, thats why some students go to University.
 
If every tom-dick-and-harry didn't think it was their God given right to go to uni, no matter how shite they were at school, perhaps there wouldn't be such an over-filling of the unis, resulting in increased costs therefore the need for the over-inflated government funding which has steadily increased over the years. Air-go the money's run out - it did years ago but Brown didn't tell anyone - so the funding has had to be cut off.

Students blame the government. Government blames the Unis. Unis blame the students. And so on.
 
Perfectly vaid point Bullit. But simply pricing the poor out of higher education is an appalling way to remedy that. If they wanted to cut down on the number of students going to university to take up degrees with no substance, then maybe they should stop the universities from offerering such degrees. Is that not a fairer way to do things?
 

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