Six Nations 2025 predictions based upon AI 2024

[BPM]

Agree except that I don't think Bothwick can get to where he needs to be and certainly not in the short to medium term. His only real chance is to recruit and retain top quality assistants…..when Jones and Walters can talk, their opinions might be telling.

Fra GS, Wal WS. The rest could be anything. Ire, Sco, Eng, Ita possibly.

I did say 'eventually'. I agree on the assistants. Maybe not his only chance, but definitely his best chance.

 

[dirty harry]

I expect nothing less with the way the sport is going...

The rebrand looks like a grinder ad, a sign for the M6N and cheap 3rd rate news station all in one.

I swear everyone involved in this sport, have all sat around in their Dublin offices, shorted the value of rugby union and thought to themselves, how can we Pelosi this to our financial advantage?!?!?!

 

[ShropshireAllBlack]

In '20/21 Ireland were in the doldrums. Everyone who was an "expert" was saying that Faz was "Continuity Schmidt" etc. England are at the same stage of the cycle now.
Yes, the loss of talented assistants like Walters & Jones is a worrying sign, but only a handful of weeks ago posters were questioning why the Lions should go to Australia, when any of the home nations could beat them on their own!
Of all sports, rugby is momentum based, and England are not far off the mark. The Australia game was 1 handling error away from a win, and a decent, if unspectacular AI campaign. Sweeny is clearly a genius, if only because he managed to get a £1.1m payday. In Bill we trust! At least until they go to Dublin and get spanked….

 

[mikebrownsauce1512]

Even then, I just don't think there are many (if any) outstanding alternatives. Or at least none that we can realistically get.

Borthwick is not where he needs to be right now but I do think he will get there eventually. I think we're just going to have to be patient, as a painful as it may be.

I expect a similar story to the Autumn. 3 close (single digit) defeats to Ireland, France and Scotland and two wins against Italy and Wales. Basically close enough to keep saying we're not far off without actually getting the results.

Honestly, I would settle for that IF we see obvious improvements in attack and even more in defence.

I think we have to keep Borthwick at the helm for now but this 6n will be very telling. We do need to be patient and we ran Nz close three times this year but now we need to convert those close margins to wins. The change of coaching staff in the summer has obviously hurt England and I am not sure that Joe el Abd is the right man for the job. The all or nothing defensive system also worries me as we conceded some extremely soft tries this autumn that were unacceptable to let through at test match level.

 

[IT157]

1. France
2. England
3. Ireland
4. Scotland
5. Wales
6. Italy

 

[Booboobang]

In '20/21 Ireland were in the doldrums. Everyone who was an "expert" was saying that Faz was "Continuity Schmidt" etc. England are at the same stage of the cycle now.
Yes, the loss of talented assistants like Walters & Jones is a worrying sign, but only a handful of weeks ago posters were questioning why the Lions should go to Australia, when any of the home nations could beat them on their own!
Of all sports, rugby is momentum based, and England are not far off the mark. The Australia game was 1 handling error away from a win, and a decent, if unspectacular AI campaign. Sweeny is clearly a genius, if only because he managed to get a £1.1m payday. In Bill we trust! At least until they go to Dublin and get spanked….

England arent far from the mark, yet they only beat italy and wales by one score as well. Only team beaten comfortably are the worst japan team in a decade.

Hope I am wrong, but I really do not see it going as the postiive amongst us think it will.

France
Ireland
Scotland
England
Italy
Wales

On logic and performance of the past 12 months.

 

[The Seeker]

I'd rather boycott living.

 

[Toulousain ex French fan]

Predictions based on AI are not reliable...and les Bleus don't win GS on the road. We have Ire, Eng, Ita away. CCup form is no indicator either.
Galthié is in charge of a golden generation we've never seen before. Yet he's got one ***le since 2019.
Toulouse are on four French ***les and 2 CCup over same period...Ugo Mola is Noves 2.0

People forget how useless les Bleus were in last 6N. 2-pt win at home over an improving England, defeat at home to Ireland, a draw vs Italy, a Tmo-based win over Sco! Dupont's absence does not explain everything...

Ireland
France or England
Scotland
Wales
Italy

Ollivon, Danty are out. Fickou will miss first games.

 

[dirty harry]

Ok balls on the line...

I think Ireland are waining and without Farrel, France are on the road, England are not just playing poorly, but aren't showing a progression under dumb dumb, Welsh squad is lacking talent, physicality, flair, pace and experience, and Italy look to have a very difficult fixture list, having to travel to England and Scotland.

I don't see a classic 6N ahead of us, and aside from Ireland looking handy favourites with their fixture list Scotland away might be a banana skin, I think the rest can beat each other (maybe even Wales could nick a win or 2).

Reality is probably that Ireland win it, France and Scotland contest 2nd, England and Italy contest 4th, and Wales will do well with 5th.

However I like to think we will see a shock away win in round 1, and that could lead us into a roller coaster of a tournament...

If a miracle in Paris happens, and Wales stun going to Rome the week after would be huge for them, and 2 from 2 could blow the tournament wide open. Ireland at home would be too far, but would certainly be more pressure on Ireland. Even if Ireland were too much, a revitalised trip to Edinburgh would be on the cards, before an actual show down in Cardiff.

If Italy shock Edinburgh, home to Wales next up become a real opportunity for a first top half finish in forever, and then turns Rome into a couldran for visiting French. Win or lose travelling to Twickers, and Ireland in Rome become pressureless tests.

England invading Dublin and making it Belfast 2 electric boogaloo, and would then relish 3 home games against beatable teams before a Cardiff GS decider?!?!

So my predictions are simple, if we see 3 home wins in round 1, my above table happens, if we see a shock away win, I think and hope all heck breaks lose and we can see a few more shock results and a bolter from nowhere...

So ye, definate Welsh grand slam, thoroughly deserved and knighthood for Gatland. Easy this predicting lark

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

This could be pretty open.

Ire on the wane and no Farrell. But Fra and Eng at home.

Fra had no Dupont last year and a RWC hangover. They'll be better. But 3 consecutive fixtures on the road including Fra and Eng.

Wal are crap, but you just know what's going to happen in Cardiff on the last day. It's written in the stars.

Ita. Hard to see them repeating last year, especially with 3 away, but they'll definitely be targeting Wal at home.

With Wal and Ita at home Sco should get 2 wins. They've got a great record at HQ, but I can't see them getting more than a draw on the road this time. Will continue to flatter to deceive.

Eng. We'll lose to Ire over there, meaning we'll need to win the other 4 to meet SB's target. Won't happen. Fra and Sco at home could go either way, but I'm not expecting 2 wins. Ita should be fine, I don't think our first loss to them will be at home. Wal away is a total banana skin, they always raise their game, probably especially so if they're facing wooden spoon / whitewash.

Ire to just edge it from Fra. Eng and Sco fighting it out for 3rd, It's 5th and Wal last. So kinda like last year!

 

[Crash Hamster]

1. France (GS)
2. Scotland
3. Ireland
4. England
5. Italy
6. Wales

Looks a tough one to call with Ireland, England and Wales "rebuilding", but this is my punt...

 

[Welsh Exile]

I reckon we'll beat Italy by a point after Gatland subs Howley on to score the winner when the clocks red. Lump on.

 

[Saintjay]

1) Ireland. I think they have the better fixtures and win on points difference. 4\5
2) France. Clearly the best over all squad. Could be 1st place. 4/5
3) Scotland. Beat England as there usual cup final. DVM runs rampant again 3/5
4) England. Midtable mediocrity suits us. 2/5
5) Italy. Likely to beat Wales. 1/5
6) Wales. I just can't see how or where they improve. 0\5

 

[dullonien]

1) Ireland. I think they have the better fixtures and win on points difference. 4\5
2) France. Clearly the best over all squad. Could be 1st place. 4/5
3) Scotland. Beat England as there usual cup final. DVM runs rampant again 3/5
4) England. Midtable mediocrity suits us. 2/5
5) Italy. Likely to beat Wales. 1/5
6) Wales. I just can't see how or where they improve. 0\5

I can see where we improve, but not how!

We're in trouble at tighthead, down to youngsters at hooker, lack physicality at lock, lack control at 10, and don't know who our best centre combo are.

Apart from that we're just dandy.

 

[General Melchett]

I think Wales need to do what they did in Pivac's championship winning year and get opposition players sent off early on in games. Maybe use scrum halves as ball carriers and get them to carry head first into locks who can't adjust their body position quick enough.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Don't think this is a massively important window for us results wise. 3 or 4 from 5 is fine. If we had Farrell I think the slam should be the goal but can't really criticise him going on the vanity project / cash cow that is the Lions.

Don't expect a massive player turn around from last autumn either, that will come in summer and autumn but I do expect us to develop our attack, likely woth Prendergast at 10.

Hope we win the Scotland game, we're 10 on the hop against them and two wins away from a 10 year winning streak which is something we've never done to another tier 1 side.

Going to Cardiff for the first time too which should be a bit of craic.

Predictions:

France (GS)
Ireland
England
Scotland
Italy
Wales

 

[dirty harry]

I think Wales need to do what they did in Pivac's championship winning year and get opposition players sent off early on in games. Maybe use scrum halves as ball carriers and get them to carry head first into locks who can't adjust their body position quick enough.

I mean both those cards were targeted forwards heads at rucks weren't they...