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<blockquote data-quote="shazbooger" data-source="post: 202357"><p>You see I kinda dissagree with your thoughts on the backrow. The English backrow got spanked, the Welsh backrow got spanked, and the Irish backrow probably would have been spanked if not for the weather. North of the equator they look good, but when playing the SH teams they dont have the physicality required. Martyn Williams is a great example. Excellent player, but without a lot of support he just gets powered out of the rucks. To even things out, I'd say the same for Leamy, he hasnt had the impact in the last two years that we would have expected. In the Locks, POD and DOC got dominated against the AB's in the lineout and have never dominated this set piece as a pair (it was O'kelly and POC that did that damage to opponent lineouts).</p><p></p><p>I'm starting to respect the physicality offered by White, Quinlan and Best (just three examples) at the moment. Players that simply dont give a f*** and go in to hurt opponents with little regard for their own wellbeing. We need forwards with Martyn Williams or Jamie Heaslip's ability but the raw naked anger of a Niall Best. We dont produce them up here do we?</p><p></p><p>Anyhoo, I dont think we are beyond hope, I'm just trying to get an objective view where we stop applying the NH standards and start applying SH standards to our favourites, cause I think there is a huge difference.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shazbooger, post: 202357"] You see I kinda dissagree with your thoughts on the backrow. The English backrow got spanked, the Welsh backrow got spanked, and the Irish backrow probably would have been spanked if not for the weather. North of the equator they look good, but when playing the SH teams they dont have the physicality required. Martyn Williams is a great example. Excellent player, but without a lot of support he just gets powered out of the rucks. To even things out, I'd say the same for Leamy, he hasnt had the impact in the last two years that we would have expected. In the Locks, POD and DOC got dominated against the AB's in the lineout and have never dominated this set piece as a pair (it was O'kelly and POC that did that damage to opponent lineouts). I'm starting to respect the physicality offered by White, Quinlan and Best (just three examples) at the moment. Players that simply dont give a f*** and go in to hurt opponents with little regard for their own wellbeing. We need forwards with Martyn Williams or Jamie Heaslip's ability but the raw naked anger of a Niall Best. We dont produce them up here do we? Anyhoo, I dont think we are beyond hope, I'm just trying to get an objective view where we stop applying the NH standards and start applying SH standards to our favourites, cause I think there is a huge difference. [/QUOTE]
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