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Santiago Phelan: the worst international selector?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jero25" data-source="post: 522572" data-attributes="member: 56447"><p>Hi, all.</p><p></p><p>I've joined this Forum during RWC2011, and I would like to share my point of view on this.</p><p></p><p>I may agree with most of your "this player over that player" arguments. However, there are some other values when making a selection. You have named a lot of players, like Roncero or FarÃas, who may be outplaced by younger ones in some aspect of the game, but their contribution to the team spirit is still unvaluable.</p><p>I mean, I suppose you have played sports, any kind of them. I had some teammates that were maybe worse than their competitors in terms of technical or tactical skills, but their inspired me in the field and make me and my other teammates more valuable. I would go to war with just a knife if they were at my side.</p><p></p><p>Pumas rugby is about guts; maybe Phelan's choice for this 2012 edition was to pick those players that would risk their own body to inspire the next generation. And in your middle 30's, when you reach that point were maybe you are outperformed by a younger rugby player, you know that what you have accomplished will still be respected, and will give 120% of you because you know there is outside someone better than you, and you have to prove that you are still valuable. </p><p></p><p>You say that "<em>I think teams should always select an older player if they are better, but if the younger player and the older player are as good then it is better to opt for the younger player and Phelan hasn't done this.</em>" Well, I see it the other way. The older ones have already proven they are ready to be here and to play against Sanzar. Have the younger ones done that? Would you rush their development? How will a +40 point defeat affect them? It is a new competition, let's bet for sure right now.</p><p></p><p>Those older players you are talking about think they will be able to go to New Zealand and grab a victory. That's the way the Pumas think, and what have made them respected. <strong>It takes time to be fearless when facing the Boks, and playing for Pumas is not the same that playing for a club.</strong> I might be slighty better that you when playing at Club level, but how about when we are going to play against a team where each single player is better than every one of us? Will you be happy with a non bonus defeat, or will you look for the impossible? What would be your reaction if losing by 20 during the first ten minutes? And if winning by 4 when there are ten minutes left? Do you have what it takes when playing with Pumas?</p><p></p><p>I don't think nostalgia is playing a part in Phelan decisions; maybe he doesn't want to take chances right now. I would expect major changes for 2013 edition.</p><p></p><p>However, I do agree about Imhoff. Totally. I think he is ready, as he has proved in RWC2011.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jero25, post: 522572, member: 56447"] Hi, all. I've joined this Forum during RWC2011, and I would like to share my point of view on this. I may agree with most of your "this player over that player" arguments. However, there are some other values when making a selection. You have named a lot of players, like Roncero or FarÃas, who may be outplaced by younger ones in some aspect of the game, but their contribution to the team spirit is still unvaluable. I mean, I suppose you have played sports, any kind of them. I had some teammates that were maybe worse than their competitors in terms of technical or tactical skills, but their inspired me in the field and make me and my other teammates more valuable. I would go to war with just a knife if they were at my side. Pumas rugby is about guts; maybe Phelan's choice for this 2012 edition was to pick those players that would risk their own body to inspire the next generation. And in your middle 30's, when you reach that point were maybe you are outperformed by a younger rugby player, you know that what you have accomplished will still be respected, and will give 120% of you because you know there is outside someone better than you, and you have to prove that you are still valuable. You say that "[I]I think teams should always select an older player if they are better, but if the younger player and the older player are as good then it is better to opt for the younger player and Phelan hasn't done this.[/I]" Well, I see it the other way. The older ones have already proven they are ready to be here and to play against Sanzar. Have the younger ones done that? Would you rush their development? How will a +40 point defeat affect them? It is a new competition, let's bet for sure right now. Those older players you are talking about think they will be able to go to New Zealand and grab a victory. That's the way the Pumas think, and what have made them respected. [B]It takes time to be fearless when facing the Boks, and playing for Pumas is not the same that playing for a club.[/B] I might be slighty better that you when playing at Club level, but how about when we are going to play against a team where each single player is better than every one of us? Will you be happy with a non bonus defeat, or will you look for the impossible? What would be your reaction if losing by 20 during the first ten minutes? And if winning by 4 when there are ten minutes left? Do you have what it takes when playing with Pumas? I don't think nostalgia is playing a part in Phelan decisions; maybe he doesn't want to take chances right now. I would expect major changes for 2013 edition. However, I do agree about Imhoff. Totally. I think he is ready, as he has proved in RWC2011. [/QUOTE]
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