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[RWC2019][The Final] England vs. South Africa (02/11/2019)
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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_stormer2010" data-source="post: 975379" data-attributes="member: 39190"><p>Sure, why not.</p><p></p><p>SA has a better pack. England has a good pack but I believe ours has been and still is better both ITO the set pieces in general and ITO generating go forward and stopping opposition go forward. I think people are taking too much from the last week's games. NZ offered no resistance whatsoever. They stood back on defense and at the collision and allowed England to boss the game. I expect the reverse to be true on Saturday IE England were made to look awesome playing a very average and fickle 2019 vintage Aus and a beatable NZ had its worst game so far. England have not yet been tested so far this RWC.</p><p></p><p>I'd argue SA have had more tests, more time under Garces and we are learning to cope better though i think everyone would've prefered anotehr ref. We've not revealed a single thing on attack. I believe we have more room for improvement and a higher ceiling than England do. I expect that to come to the fore.</p><p></p><p>Over the last decade we've had England's number. Even at our worst we were more competitive against England than other maybe even lesser (generally speaking) teams. I'd say we *should've* won our last tie and that was in Twickers, not Japan but for a glaring non-call. We won at home last year 2/3 and the one loss was with a largely experimental side. Generally speaking for me its not a case of England beat NZ and NZ beat SA so England beats SA but more of a paper-rock-scissors type of setup. I just simply believe we have England's number plain and simple. Results between us relative to other teams seems to back this conception up. SA are undefeated in RWC finals. So basically I believe its better to be stepping back from one off results or at least take them in context especially as a RWC final is a different beast than a 'normal' test.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_stormer2010, post: 975379, member: 39190"] Sure, why not. SA has a better pack. England has a good pack but I believe ours has been and still is better both ITO the set pieces in general and ITO generating go forward and stopping opposition go forward. I think people are taking too much from the last week's games. NZ offered no resistance whatsoever. They stood back on defense and at the collision and allowed England to boss the game. I expect the reverse to be true on Saturday IE England were made to look awesome playing a very average and fickle 2019 vintage Aus and a beatable NZ had its worst game so far. England have not yet been tested so far this RWC. I'd argue SA have had more tests, more time under Garces and we are learning to cope better though i think everyone would've prefered anotehr ref. We've not revealed a single thing on attack. I believe we have more room for improvement and a higher ceiling than England do. I expect that to come to the fore. Over the last decade we've had England's number. Even at our worst we were more competitive against England than other maybe even lesser (generally speaking) teams. I'd say we *should've* won our last tie and that was in Twickers, not Japan but for a glaring non-call. We won at home last year 2/3 and the one loss was with a largely experimental side. Generally speaking for me its not a case of England beat NZ and NZ beat SA so England beats SA but more of a paper-rock-scissors type of setup. I just simply believe we have England's number plain and simple. Results between us relative to other teams seems to back this conception up. SA are undefeated in RWC finals. So basically I believe its better to be stepping back from one off results or at least take them in context especially as a RWC final is a different beast than a 'normal' test. [/QUOTE]
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