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RWC Preview Samoa

Melhor Time

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My Samoa preview was published earlier today:

http://www.rugbymania.com.br/2009/ver_noticia08.asp?codigo=4265

Suggested XV

15 Paul Williams (Sale, ENG)
14 David Lemi (London Wasps, ENG)
13 Seilala Mapusua (London Irish, ENG)
12 Eliota Fuimaono-Sapolu (Gloucester, ENG) *
11 Alesana Tuilagi (Leicester, ENG)
10 Tasesa Lavea (Clermont, FRA)
9 Junior Poluleuligaga (Exeter, ENG)
8 Henry Tuilagi (Perpignan, FRA)
7 Manaia Salaveá (Narborne, FRA)
6 George Stowers (London Irish, ENG)
5 Filipo Levi (Newcastle, ENG)
4 Joe Tekori (Castres, FRA)
3 Census Johnson (Toulouse, FRA)
2 Mahonra Schwalger capitão (Taranaki, NZ)
1 Na´ama Leleimalefaga (Montpellier, FRA)

Reserves 16 Tií Paulo (Clermont, FRA), 17 Anthony Perenise (Hawkes Bay, NZ), 18 Kane Thompson (Dax, FRA), 19 Daniel Leo´o (Bordeaux, FRA), 20 Kahn Fotuali'i (Hawkes Bay, NZ), 21 George Pisi (Taranaki, NZ), 22 Gavin Williams (Clermont, FRA).

Additional Squad members 23 Steve Fualau (Canterbury, NZ), 24 Sakaria Taulafo (London Wasps, ENG), 25 Chris Timaloa (Queensland Reds, AUS), 26 Ofisa Trevarinus (Malie, Samoa), 27 Afa Aiono (A'ana, Samoa), 28 Uale Mai (El Salvador, Spain), 29 Brando Va'aulu (Bourgoin, FRA), 30 Henry Fa´afili (Leeds, ENG).

Key points in brief

* As always, Samoa is strong with enormous centres and in general eight monsters starting in the forwards. The scrum is heavy and difficult to defeat.

* Virtually all of the players play for top European clubs. Henry Tuilagi, for instance, is consdiered better than Sebastien Chabal as a ball carrier and defender. George Stowers is a big name for London Irish, while Joe Tekori, Census Johnson, Seilala Mapusua and Alesana Tuilagi are similar in France and England. All are excellent players but all for the same reason - size. Samoa needs to have a more diversified set of players. Tekori, Stowers e Henry Tuilagi could on paper be a superb backrow but they are all the same player. None of them serves as a fetcher. They are all 8´s. This highlights the problems Samoa face - balance and is a reflection of Samoan rugby in the pro era and the lack of progress since Rugby World Cup 1999. In my opinion Samoa only has one elite player who is known for something other than his size - Eliota Fuimaono-Sapolu.

* I´d like very much to have Fotunuupule Auelua playing for Samoa. He is Samoan, but born in New Zealand. He has played no representative rugby so could play for Samoa due to his parentes being Samoan. He has had a great season for Toulon playing at 12 or 8. I´d have him at 12 for Samoa with Fuimaono Sapolu playing 10.

* I did not select Manu Tuilagi from the Leicester Tigers who is the younger of the brothers who are all Samoan internationals. Manu, is Samoan born and is only 20 years old but arrived in England yat a young age and played under 14 rugby in England. He´ll be an English international and is my pick to replace Mike Tindall as England´s starting 13 after trhe World Cup.

* Samoa will win game 1 vs Namibia then havwe a good shot vs Wales but come up short due to Wales´ superior backs who, as the game progress´s, could run Samoa of its feet. Wales need its first XV, not players like Biggar, etc who played in the near loss in 2009. Game three vs Fiji could go either way but I´m picking Fiji based on Fiji´s superior backs and results between the two teams since France 2007. Game four vs South Africa could be interesting but like 2003 and 2007 it will not live up to the hype and South Africa will score another 50 point win. Thus, Samoa would be eliminated at the pools stage and will have to qualify for England 2015.

* Since France 2007 Samoa has faced Fiji three times for one win and two loses. The only ever game vs Namibia was a 40-13 win in 2003. Samoa was defeated Wales three times in history - two at World Cup´s. With Wales fielding an experimental side in 2009 lacking many first choice players Samoa ran Wales close and nearly won. Final score was 17-13 to the Dragons. Wales cannot amke the same mistake again. Samoa vs South Africa has happend in 3 World Cup´s. In 1996 RSA wont he Quarter Final 42-14, in 2003 and 2007 RSA won 60-10 and 59-7.

* Samoa is at the same level as 2007. During this time Samoa has defeated Fiji, Japan, Papua New Guinea and Tonga but has lost every match vs tier one opposition inc vs all 6 teams fromt he Six Nations. Samoa´s best result was sv Scotland in 2010 with a 19-16 loss on full time.



 
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Kahn Fotuali'i - Crusaders will probably start at 9 for Samoa.
 
Henry didn't play in the AIs did he?
Was he injured, not selected or did he opt out to focus on club rugby?
 
Henry didn't play in the AIs did he?
Was he injured, not selected or did he opt out to focus on club rugby?

Henry was suspended due to a late hit that he put on the la rochelle half back, to me maybe because I'm samoan, that was a mean ass hit... lol
 
Ah right,
Will be good to see him back for Samoa then, I half though/worried he'd retired from international rugby, so glad he hasn't

Always been a big fan of Samoa, and will be cheering them on in the WC (unless they meet England at any stage :lol: )
 
I know for sure that henry will be in th wc squad and I am also hoping that we can get all of our star players for the pnc and the match against Australia, we don't want another embarrassing result like the result against New Zealand in 2008, but then again we had a sorry coach and most of our star players weren't available, so I'm hoping for the best for our Manu Samoa.
 
Game three vs Fiji could go either way but I´m picking Fiji based on Fiji´s superior backs and results between the two teams since France 2007.
SACRILEGE!

Honestly.. I could care less if Samoa lost to WALES and SA.. But NEVER to Fiji... Fiji will be playing us at Eden Park.. AUCKLAND..... Home crowd advantage.

Last match we scored 4 or 5 tries on em... They only had 3 PKs....
 
Kahn Fotuali'i will definitely start, Taulafo probably start ahead of Leleimalefaga, Tagicakibau and Lemalu will probably make the squad

I don't agree with some people permanent dislike of Lavea, he's not that bad and is by far the best Samoa have got. And Fuimaono-Sapolu is NOT a fly half.

I really hope that Fa'asavalu of Harlequins is available, he just played awesome against Stade Français on Friday, and he can play openside as a fetcher I think

James Johnston of Quins too could be handy off the bench when his brother tires
 
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Good post Melhor, even if I find your lack of faith in my beloved team to be quite disturbing ;):rolleyes:
Of your starting front row combination of Nama Leleimalefaga, Mahonri Schwalger and Cencus Johnston, I think Schwalger should start and Johnston can start but would be better served coming off the bench as an impact player. Cencus is very mobile, has good pace and fitness for a prop and hits hard...But I feel Perenise is the better scrummager. I havent seen too much of Leleimalefaga, but I did watch the top 14 semi final were he came on as a replacement for Montepellier. His side of the scurm was destroyed time and time again when they were 5 meters out from their own in goal area so I think Saukari Taulafo is a better option
In the second row Felipo Levi and Iosefa Tekori would make decent starters. I think Kane Thompson is the better lineout option than Tekori though Tekori is dangerous in the loose, has good pace for a man of his size, hits hard and carrys the ball well. I feel he is another better served coming off the bench as an impact player as he can also cover number 8 and Flanker.
I am happy for Stowers to start as a flanker and Henry Tuilagi at number 8. Not the biggest fan of Salavea as I stated on the other thread. Would prefer either Maurie Fa'asavalu, Ofisa Treviranus and if they choose to make themselves available Serge Lilo or Jack Lam at Blindside or Openside Flanker. You are right with your analysis though, Samoa lacks a true pilferer and ball fetcher in the loose something Samoa has had problems producing in the last decade.
Kahn Fotuali'i will start for Samoa He was our star performer in the end of year internationals last year. He leads well, good distribution, can run the ball and box kicking is good. If he is healthy its not a debate wether he will start, though Junior Poluleuligaga is a good player in his own right and can make a adequate back up.Tasesa Lavea should start at Fly Half. Our depth isn't good at the position but I feel he is the best we've got and I feel Eliota Fuimaono-Sapolu, if he makes the squad, can cover as back up.
Im happy with your centre pairing. Seilala Mapasua will be a guaranteed starter if healthy. Eliota Fuimaono-Sapolu may not be included in the squad though. He has the skills but he believes he is out of favour with the selectors as he is Outspoken. If this is the case George Pisi would likely get the starting Job with Mapasua if not Id like to see either Andy Tuilagi, Jonny Leota or Elvis Seveali'i. Manu Tuilagi would be there but his allegiance is England I believe. Jamie Helleur is another but I hear he has retired from international rugby to concentrate on playing for his club.
Paul Williams and Alesana Tuilagi will be our starters at wing and Fullback. David Lemi will likely start too as he has done for the last few years now, but I feel he hasn't done enough to solidify the starting role in the last few years. I would prefer Sailosi Tagicakibau to start or even Mikaele Pesamino (If he was in form and playing to the level he was last year on the 7s circuit and in the PNC)..

My 30 man Manu Samoa World cup squad (Including players Im thinking could be eligible)
Props: Saukari Taulafo, Anthony Perenise, Cencus Johnston, Simon Lemalu
Hookers: Ti'i Paulo, Mahonri Schwalger, Steve Fualau
Locks: Felipo Levi, Kane Thompson, Dan Leo, Joe Tekori
Loosies: Maurie Fa'asavalu, George Stowers, Ofisa Treviranus, Jack Lam, Serge Lilo, Henry Tuilagi
Halfbacks: Kahn Fotuali'i, Junior Poluleuligaga
Fly Halves: Tasesa Lavea
Centres: Seilala Mapasua, Eliota Fuimaono-Sapolu, Geroge Pisi, Andy Tuilagi
Wings: Alesana Tuilagi, Sailosi Tagicakibau, Mikaele Pesamino, David Lemi
FullBacks: Paul Williams, Gavin Williams

Players to be considered: James Johnston (Prop) Nama Leleimalefaga (Prop) James Afoa (Prop) Logavi'i Mulipola (Prop) Pelu Taele-Pevihi (Lock) Jonny Fa'amatuinau (Lock/Loose Forward) Alfoti Faosiliva(Flanker) Manaia Salevea (Flanker) Ray Ofisa (Flanker) Chad Slade (Loose Forward/Lock) Falemiga Selesele (Flanker) Richard Muagututia (Loose Forward) Afa Aiono (Flanker) Simiake Mikaele (Loose forward/Lock) Uale Mai (Scrumhalf/Fly Half) Fa'atonu Fili (Fly Half) Roger Warren (Fly Half) Jonny Leota (Centre) Elvis Seveali'i (Centre) Brando Va'alu (Centre/Wing) Henry Fa'afilli (Wing/Centre) Sinoti Sinoti (Wing) Fautua Otto (Wing) Apoua Stewart(Fullback) Lolo Lui (Fullback/Fy half) ***i Esau (Fullback/Fly Half)

My Matchday lineup
1 Sakaria Taulafo
2 Mahonri Schwalger
3 Anthony Perenise
4 Felipo Levi
5 Kane Thompson
6 Maurie Fa'asavalu
7 Ofisa Treviranus
8 Henry Tuilagi
9 Kahn Fotuali'i
10 Tasesa Lavea
11 Sailosi Tagicakibau
12 Seilala Mapasua
13 George Pisi
14 Alesena Tuilagi
15 Paul Williams

16 Ti'i Paulo
17 Cencus Johnston
18 Joe Tekori
19 George Stowers/Serge Lilo/Jack Lam
20 Junior Poluleuligaga
21 Eliota Fuimaono-Sapolu
22 Mikaele Pesamino

I do agree that Samoa will find it tough to beat South Africa, Wales and Fiji. Fiji will be a 50/50 game as both teams are pretty equal and I feel it just depends on whose day it turns out to be (hopefully Samoa):cool: Wales I'm sure will be frothing at the mouth to avenge all their past world cup humiliations in one World Cup showing so I'm expecting them to come prepared and ready to fire. Samoa (or Fiji for that matter) will have to play at their absolute BEST for them to have a chance to topple the welsh. South Africa always tends to be too much of a handful for Samoa even at their best but who knows...fellow islanders Tonga proved anything is possible at the last world cup, with only the bounce of the ball in the dying seconds 5 meters out from them scoring a try denying them the greatest of all upsets. Namibia shouldn't be underestimated, but I feel Samoa should def come up tops there. For me I predict 1 guaranteed win, 2 crunch games against Wales and Fiji to decide who qualifies for the the next round at the world cup. Best I can realistically hope for is 3 outta 4 and a quarter finals berth. (I posted this in the other Samoa thread)
 
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I would be quite happy if Samoa beat my beloved Australia and won the Rugby World Cup, anyone but NZ, England or SA and I'm happy.
 
Okay.... Saw Treviranus over the Weekend.. He made a lot of good turnovers at the Ruck time..

Even thou its just 7s.. its something i hardly saw from him back in the days.. In 15s and in 7s.. perhaps he is trying to make the 7s jersey his... Hopefully he can convert his turnover ability to the 15 man game.

Go Salavea at 6..Hmm i like him for his tackling ability and he is quite tall which would make a good 3rd lineout option.
 
Manu Samoa 15 RWC Training Squad

Hookers: Mahonri Schwalger, Tii Paulo, Mikaele Tuuu,Steve Fualau, and Ole Avei.
Loosehead Props: Sakaria Taulafo,Simon Lemalu, Kas Lealamanua, Logovii Mulipola.
Tighthead Props:Census Johnston, Anthony Pereise,Naama Leleimalefaga, James Johnston.
Locks: Kane Thompson, Filipo Levi, Daniel Leo, Joe Tekori, Jonathan Faamatuainu.
Openside Flanker: Ray Ofisa, Manaia Salave’a, Ofisa Trevaranius.
Blindside Flanker :Maurie Faasavalu, Ezra Taylor, Tasina Tuifua
No 8:- Georger Stowers, Henry Tuilagi,Alafoti Faosiliva
Halfback: Kahn Fotualii, Junior Poluleuligaga, Brenton Helleur, Uale Ma’I, Thomas Tusitala.
1<sup>st</sup> 5/8 â€" Tasesa Lavea, Tusi Pisi, Faatonu Fili, Roger Warren

Midfield â€" Seilala Maposua, George Pisi, Johnnu Leota, Eliota Sapolu, Fautua Otto,AneteleaTuilagi, Taputoa Rea, Herman
Porter, Timoteo Iosua, Christopher Victor Slade.
Wings: Alesana Tuilagi, Sailosi Tagicakibau, David Lemi, Sinoti Sinoti, Alapati Leiua
Fullback: Paul Williams, Ahsee Tuala, Apoua Stewart.

What are your thoughts? Still early for the super rugby boys to be pledging allegiance for samoa. e.g. Peter Saili etc
 
Hookers: Mahonri Schwalger, Tii Paulo, Mikaele Tuuu,Steve Fualau, and Ole Avei. Loosehead Props: Sakaria Taulafo,Simon Lemalu, Kas Lealamanua, Logovii Mulipola. Tighthead Props:Census Johnston, Anthony Pereise,Naama Leleimalefaga, James Johnston. Locks: Kane Thompson, Filipo Levi, Daniel Leo, Joe Tekori, Jonathan Faamatuainu. Openside Flanker: Ray Ofisa, Manaia Salave'a, Ofisa Trevaranius. Blindside Flanker :Maurie Faasavalu, Ezra Taylor, Tasina Tuifua No 8:- Georger Stowers, Henry Tuilagi,Alafoti Faosiliva Halfback: Kahn Fotualii, Junior Poluleuligaga, Brenton Helleur, Uale Ma'I, Thomas Tusitala. 1<sup>st</sup> 5/8 – Tasesa Lavea, Tusi Pisi, Faatonu Fili, Roger Warren

Midfield – Seilala Maposua, George Pisi, Johnnu Leota, Eliota Sapolu, Fautua Otto,AneteleaTuilagi, Taputoa Rea, Herman
Porter, Timoteo Iosua, Christopher Victor Slade. Wings: Alesana Tuilagi, Sailosi Tagicakibau, David Lemi, Sinoti Sinoti, Alapati Leiua Fullback: Paul Williams, Ahsee Tuala, Apoua Stewart.

What are your thoughts? Still early for the super rugby boys to be pledging allegiance for samoa. e.g. Peter Saili etc
Sorry it seems official according to the Official Manu Samoa facebook page :cool::D
Great squad that should well come world cup. Disapointing more Super Rugby players havent pledged alleigance yet (Saili, Lam, Levave but what about Serge Lilo..I thought he told managment he would pledge alleigance this year?). But as you said Aucklander hopefully its because its too early in the year and eventually more willl make themselves available in time for the world cup. Pretty much all the names I expected to be listed are in the squad so its good to see. Great to see Maurie Fa'asuvalu in the squad, I knew even when he was in league he would someday return to the Manu and it seems he willl..WELCOME BACK UCE..
As I said an Impressive squad with alot of names that I think can do us proud come PNC and WORLD CUP time. MANU FA'AMALOSI!!!:cool::cool::cool::cool:
MY MANU SAMOA TEAM FROM THE LISTED SQUAD

1 Saukaria Taulafo
2 Ti'i Paulo
3 Anthony Perenise
4 Kane Thompson
5 Felipo Levi
6 maurie Fa'asavalu
7 Ofisa Treviranus
8 Henry Tuilagi
9 Kahn Fotuali'i
10 Tasesa Lavea
11 Sailosi Tagicakibau
12 Eliota Sapolu
13 Seilala Mapasua
14 Alesena Tuilagi
15 Paul Williams

16 Mahonri Schwalger

17 Cencus Johnston
18 Joe Tekori
19 George Stowers
20 Junior Poluleuligaga
21 George Pisi
22 Alapate Leiua
 
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A good looking training squad for Samoa. The only notable omission is that of of Gavin Williams; I assume he must be injured?
Good to see young Ashee Tuala commit to Samoa - he could quite well sneak into the final 30-man squad.
 
Going on form this year so far.

Yes i do agree Afakasi, most of the players are not yet available to make their decision until later in the super rugby competition. However this would be my lineup.

MY MANU SAMOA TEAM FROM THE LISTED SQUAD
1 Saukaria Taulafo
2 Ti'i Paulo
3 Anthony Perenise
4 Joe Tekori
5 Filipo Levi
6 George Stowers
7 Maurie Fa'asavalu
8 Henry Tuilagi
9 Kahn Fotuali'i
10 Tasesa Lavea
11 Sailosi Tagicakibau
12 Eliota Sapolu
13 Seilala Mapusua
14 Alesena Tuilagi
15 Paul Williams

16 Mahonri Schwalger

17 Cencus Johnston
18 Kane Thompson
19 Ezra Taylor
20 Junior Poluleuligaga
21 Fa'atonu Fili
22 Alapati Leiua
 
Yes i do agree Afakasi, most of the players are not yet available to make their decision until later in the super rugby competition. However this would be my lineup.

MY MANU SAMOA TEAM FROM THE LISTED SQUAD
1 Saukaria Taulafo
2 Ti'i Paulo
3 Anthony Perenise
4 Joe Tekori
5 Filipo Levi
6 George Stowers
7 Maurie Fa'asavalu
8 Henry Tuilagi
9 Kahn Fotuali'i
10 Tasesa Lavea
11 Sailosi Tagicakibau
12 Eliota Sapolu
13 Seilala Mapusua
14 Alesena Tuilagi
15 Paul Williams

16 Mahonri Schwalger

17 Cencus Johnston
18 Kane Thompson
19 Ezra Taylor
20 Junior Poluleuligaga
21 Fa'atonu Fili
22 Alapati Leiua
Woops...I forgot about Eliota Sapolu...HOW COULD I OVERLOOK HIM :eek:;) (back to my earlier post to re-edit)
 
Cmon guys.. How can you not have Cencus in your Front Rows!!!
 
Cmon guys.. How can you not have Cencus in your Front Rows!!!
Cencus is a great ball runner, has good pace for a man of his size, hits and tackle hard and gets around the park well. I feel his scrummaging is not as good as Perenise and I feel Johnston would better serve coming off the bench as an IMPACT player.
 
Some young players there for the future of Samoa rugby, but none of them will make much difference to the team this year.

A bit weird you guys selected Faasavalu at openside. To me, Faasavalu is far from an openside option these days; he just doesn't have the motor for it anymore. He's similar to Henry Tuilagi now, and you wouldn't play Tuilagi at openside.
 

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