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RWC 2011: THE FINAL!!! France vs. New Zealand

I thought the kick was dodgy when I first saw it, didn't have the time to look at it again, but that should spark some debate's over the coming 4 years :p.
 
Just went and looked at it again - looks over to me. Also, there were about 6 French players watching the ball from just either side of the flight line and they obviously thought it went over. And there was some character with an orange top and a flag in his hand who seemed to think it went over too. Oh yeah, and the whole crowd behind the posts.

But still, you are probably right that it didn't really go over :rolleyes:
 
In personal experience, beyond 4 years. I mean come on, anyone can see that Cueto scored that try!
 
Thanks for this post. To be honest, I'm a bit ashamed of what Rougerie has done during this final, we should not see that anymore in modern rugby and we know that this image will stay about this match, that is the sad thing about it. I do not think every french player is a dirty player but I feel sometimes that we are more permissive for these kind of behaviour in our rugby culture. And maybe we are more punished by referees becasue of that.

I guess this violent legend from the french is half true, half dreamed. I guess one of the explanation is that rugby in france is coming from low class and uneducated people in the past, in opposition to university and educated people in England for example. I guess this kind of legend is not totally fake and comes from somewhere. I would say anglo saxon medias are always making the most of it to put down the french whaen they have the occasion to do so. and that is what **** me off about the Rougerie behaviour : he is feeding the legend.

Saying that, frenchies had some reasons to be ****** off. All the trash talk from the media before the match, the Parra incident and a referee who did not make it easy for us...so in this perspective, I can accept the moment of madness of Rougerie but it is defenitly disgusting and stupid to think that nobody will see this.

It does not delete the fact that France has done a great match, this behaviour did not have any incident on the match itself.

And I hope like you that we will show the Rougerie incident everywhere in France (it has started already) and I hope to never see anymore Rougerie in the French team.
Our Rugby culture come of the deep south west countryside (Aquitaine, Gascogne ect..(English former province in the time of the Plantagenêt and Aleonor of Aquitaine). In the middle age, theses paysans played a called 'la soule' a play in which you can do what you want. Somewhere a part of this antic and autentic paysant soul have disapeared in a modern Rugby where all the player seem the clone from each other: body builder, professional with all what that's mean as: a kind of robot player . The worst are this mediatic ridiculous show like the Parisian club try to make.
In the past it was revelating, when a player make a goal (I dont know the name in english) it was so, without demonstrative joy, sobre, he was a part of the group and he know that. I can easily imagine that the well educated and academic english player doesn't understand all this french background. The englishmen played against farmer, backer, carpenter ect and after all it was no so bad. But in the another hand sometime the antic "Soule" came out from deep and the fight and violence comed up.
Sorry I did a lot effort to exprim my idea in english. I come from an uneducated low class people after all ; Merci d'avance pour votre effort de comprehension.
Congrutalation to the magnific All Black and the Maori people.
 
In personal experience, beyond two centuries, I mean come on, Wellington didn't win Waterloo. Napoleon was about to win it, and that bloody ******* of Blucher came in !!
 
Oh sorry, I thought you meant Yachvili's kick, Donald's kick was definitely over.
 
Tu veux dire "a try" ( Un essai ) ou un drop goal ?
un essai merci de m'aider pour l'anglais dans ce monde de brute;). J' ai essayé d'expliquer l'origine paysanne du jeux et surtout dans le sud ouest dont je suis originaire. C'est vrai, j'ai maintenant 50 ans chaque match commençait ou finissait en bagarre général puis quand le match était finit on partageaient l'apéro dont du pastis même au mineur, va expliquer ça aux anglo-saxon !!! dans un monde aussi civilisé et aseptisé que le leur! il y a forcément des malentendus! quand ça part, ça part ceci dit j'ai assisté à des match internationaux comme France- Roumanie . Quelques un ce sont mit à siffler l’hymne roumain, ils ont vite été remis à leur place. Derrière une violence clastique ce cachait aussi beaucoup de respect pour l'adversaire. Et puis je n'aime décidément pas le maillot rose du Stade de Paris (pas les parisiens que j'aime bien), les embrassades après chaques essaies, les feux d'artifices et tous ce showbisness, les marque de vêtement Blanco, Eden Park et touts ce marketing.Sobre!
 
In personal experience, beyond two centuries, I mean come on, Wellington didn't win Waterloo. Napoleon was about to win it, and that bloody ******* of Blucher came in !!

Good old germans flanking you guys from the east :). Shame they whent to pot a couple of years later :p.
 
No one in France don't complain about the refeering, we are proud about our team. She was hardly criticized as the badest team, "the shame of the rugby" , and object of mockery "80 minutes of laughing" as it was the ***tle of one of your tabloid newspapers. They had faced three times to the defeat. They have could abandonned after the the defeat against the Tonga,doubted after the small victory against the Wales. And in Aukland in the hot heart of your Nation, face to the best team in the world very motived to win and which never lost, the french have never failed in the fight and at the end could win "if".... but they were unlucky , so is the sport.
But escuse me, such players are really greats players even in this small defeat, not just for their games but also for their mental strongness and that it's our biggest victory. the victory on youself. Yes we have a bitter taste in the mouth, paradise where not so far. But we will never complained about the referee or the state of the grass; the direction of th wind or the position of Jupiter or what ever stupids reasons. "Kopf hoch" as the germans say. Yes Heads Up and we accepted fully your victory even small it was. We doesn't contest your victory (may be some french).The Maori God was with you, thank Him and enjoy your victory with all the People of News Zealand, it's great!!. You don't imagin how we respect your team, your country and your people. Please in your legitime fest have litlle thought to the frenchs supporters and over all to the frenchs players just a glass of beer it will be nice. ;)

I hear you my rugbybrother!;)
 
In personal experience, beyond two centuries, I mean come on, Wellington didn't win Waterloo. Napoleon was about to win it, and that bloody ******* of Blucher came in !!

Yeah you're F****** right ! And everybody knows that Joubert means Blucher in German !
 
Donald's kick was interesting. at first it looked like it missed but it was because the first shot was spider cam and the cam was moving up and away, made it kind look like it missed. Other shots showed it was clearly over
 
BRAVO rendez vous to the next WWCup!;)
S'hè Discitatu 3:52 Barbara Furtuna In Santa Pace World I try to send you one our corsican song. That' s come from the antiquity. Full with emotion , talking about love; death; God, humanity.... it's so beautiful!
 
Tu veux dire "a try" ( Un essai ) ou un drop goal ?
Oui j'accepte toutes critiques qui peux ameliorer mon anglais/ I accept all criticizes which can improve my english. Merci d'avance, thank you by advance.
 
********, France is very friendly and the people are lovely so long as you make an effort to speak French when your there.
If on the other hand you are an arrogant git that refuses to even try to communicate in French then expect them to ignore you.
Kind of like when a Korean comes to the UK and doesn't speak English, people tend to ignore them cause they don't know what they're saying.
Merci mon ami
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J'ai eu du mal avec lui. Nous sommes un peuple comme les autres. Il y a des gentils et des méchants. Je n'approuve pas tous ce que fait la France. L'affaire du Rainbow warrior ou un journaliste portugais est mort est une honte, les essais atomique sur Muruoa alors que les populations locales n'étaient pas avertit sont une honte. La main de Thierry Henry contre l'Irlande en football est aussi une honte!!
En tout cas Congrutalation to all the AB, Congrutalation for the Maori People, and we share your joy to have win (for a little point;)).
If you come in France you are very welcome and specialy in Corsica !! (take my E mail)
Rendez vous à la prochaine coupe du monde en Argentine, j'espere (they have a nice team) or in Georgia another little People. Peut être que cette fois là on aura nos chance!​





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