Following as well. Are there any mods out there that use the original release of up to 5 allowed in the Ruck. Any programmer/coder that can find that and turn it on in a mod? They later changed it in and update, they made some good changes, but limiting the Ruck to 3 was a big disappointment especially since it was included in the original release of Rugby Challenge 4, those that like simulation Rugby, liked the up to 5 in the ruck feature of Rugby Challenge 3 and original release of Rugby Challenge 4 had it and then they took it out. Rugby Challenge 4 with longer lasting scrums and ability to add 5 to the ruck. Would be the greatest Rugby simulation game of all times once you dial in the game play sliders.