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RobbieD_PL

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Hey Guys,

I'm opening up this thread to get some discussion going from some more knowledgeable editors of RC2 than me, as well as to ask if anyone has a couple of patches that I haven't been able to get access to from the Sidhe forums (which my account there still hasn't been activated....).

Basically, I'm a long standing FIFA editor and I did manage to get the Lions Tour and the Ten Nations activated into Rugby 08. So I'm hoping that's enough street-cred. :p

What I'm looking to do in RC2 is mainly what I do in FIFA; add more national teams. I'm currently using the last version (V3-AIO) of bric6's mod + the RSA Commentary by the guys who made the Currie Cup mod (so all credits go to them for that), but I've made changes to the national team rosters; expanding the 6 and 4 Nations teams to 39 players as well as combing through the club rosters to get to licensed players for the rest of the generic national teams. + I've added Sonny Bill Williams to the ABs.

Aside from that I still have a few questions to ask about quite a few things:

1. Faces
What is the definitive list of real faces and their required files in RC2?

There are the following files that I know of:
head_dif_###.pssg
head_spc_###.pssg
hair .pssg files
skin_dif_###.pssg

But I don't know what are the players that each ID number refers to. It would be good to have a comprehensive list. The only face ID I know is SBW which is 249.

Also, apparently RC1 faces are compatible with RC2 faces. Is there a list of the faces and Face ID#s from that game?

Are there any specific South African players' faces made for RC2?

2. New National teams and New Nationalities
I've seen that there is a patch with all 100 national teams affiliated to the IRB:
http://forums.sidhe.co.nz/showthread.php?50021-IRB-Mod-104

Does anyone still have that mod, and if so, can they please upload it somewhere!?!

Failing anyone being able to upload that patch; How can I add new national teams?

For my own patch, I want to add at least the following national teams, whose nationalities have at least 1 player in the club rosters:
Netherlands (1 player in-game)
Norway (2 players in-game)
Cook Islands (5 players in-game)
Cameroon (4 players in-game)
Morocco (2 players in-game)
Ivory Coast (1 player in-game)

There are four nationalities which don't have any players in any of the clubs in game:
China
Hong Kong
Switzerland
Vanuatu

Also there are a few players which are of a nationality that is missing in RC2:
Czech Republic: Mirek Nemecek - LK4/50 (currently under Swiss nationality in my .db)
Lithuania: Karolis Navickas - LK5/61 (currently under Swiss nationality in my .db)
Moldova: Vadim Cobilas - LHP/62 (currently under Romanian nationality in my .db)
Cape Verde Islands: Jeremias Sanches Pereira - HKR/59 (currently under Moroccan nationality in my .db)
Algeria: Said Hireche - OFL/63 (currently under Moroccan nationality in my .db)
Algeria: Salim Tebani - HKR/54 (currently under Moroccan nationality in my .db)



So I would also like to add Czech Rep. Lithuania, Moldova, Cape Verde and Algeria as well.


And lastly I would like to add the association logo for Chile as well as update the generic sidhe crowd flags for default generic national teams:
Brazil, Chile, Kenya, Zimbabwe.

So what are the graphic files that I need to create new national teams and how can I add nationalities to the custom .db?

Also, how can I add national anthems for all the teams? Some countries' anthems are incomplete & start halfway through (England, Japan)

3. Tournaments:

For the World Cup Tournament, is there anyway that I can replace any one of the 24 default teams? Also, how can I change the default pools? Doesn't make sense to have New Zealand, Wales, Ireland and England in the one pool...

Also, I'd like to expand:
The Pacific Rim Tournament to include the Cook Islands
The African Nations Cup to also include Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Cape Verde, Cameroon and Ivory Coast. Is it possible to have 2 pools of 5 and then have semis and a final?
The European KO Cup to also include Czech Republic, Lithuania, Moldova, Netherlands, Norway and Switzerland + Poland, Ukraine, Belgium, Sweden Croatia & Latvia. Is it possible to have 3 pools of 6 and a finals knockout stage?

4. Stadiums:

How come no-one has thought to update the generic European and South African stadiums? The FIFA community has actually converted 3-4 Rugby Challenge 2 stadiums to FIFA! So I've got an idea of converting the realistic stadiums back into Rugby Challenge 2, if that is at all feasible...

Loftus Versfeld, Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Ellis Park and Free State Stadium are all available from the 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa video game.
Stade de France and Millennium Stadium have been converted to FIFA14
Twickenham Stadium is in RWC2011.

I have all the stadium files for the last three European stadiums, but I don't have the South African ones. Also, if I can't add stadiums, I'd like to replace Stade Gerland (which will be demolished anyway) with Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium.

So if anyone can help out with that then yeh! :D
 
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Hey man. I'm working on a mod at the moment, but I'm more trying to fix up player ratings and squads for the teams that were already in the game than expand the game.

What you are talking about doing is interesting, but would take a lot of work, assuming that most of that stuff is possible. For the real faces, if you open the RC1 database with SQLite (or similar program) you can find the id numbers and the correlating players for 90% of the modelled faces in RC2, just not the northern hemisphere players.

A lot of the things you are trying to do may have been possible in RC1, but the problem is RC2's database format was changed so it can no longer be opened with SQLite, and no-one has made a program yet to make the database more accessible to edit. If you know someone with some programming background from the FIFA scene then maybe they could figure it out. One of the Sidhe staff did provide some info to help people trying to make a editor program, so I'll try track that down if you think it could be of any help.
 
Hey mate, thanks for your reply. I'm using your database from the v3 AIO mod, but I've updated the national team rosters to include all the licensed players from the AUS/NZL Super Rugby teams and the English Aviva Prem., French Top14 et D2 & the remaining 6N Pro12; and I'd just be interested to see how the guy who made the IRB104 mod managed to add all his required nationalities and national teams. Obviously, my patch won't have all IRB-affiliated national teams like his one. I simply want to fix up the nationalities for players who are completely missing their correct nationalities in-game and if possible add all national teams for all nationalities, both current and the ones to be fixed.

For the faces, I'd much appreciate a list of all the hex number IDs for all the specific faces from both RC1 & RC2, and which faces that are in RC1 but not in RC2. (BTW, I haven't got RC1 so, unfortunately, I can't go back & forth between the two to get my hands on faces files...)

As for the stadiums, there's a guy @ our forums who's managed to export the stadiums from RC2 into Blender; a very common 3D modelling programme. I'll get in touch with him to see if he's interested to get stadiums into RC2. For now, considering the generic RSA, ENG and FRA stads which are in-game; there's less than 10 stadiums. I don't know if there are realistic versions of the Durban and Cape Town stadiums, since the generic ones are fairly accurate. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Stormers don't play at Green Point Stadium?

For tournaments. How can I change the seeding for the 24-team World Cup? I want to swap out 2 teams from New Zealand, Wales, England and Ireland into the other pools. For the 6 Nations, I want to set Ireland's home stadium as the realistic Aviva Stadium and the Cardiff City Stadium for Wales.
 
So I've just gotten an old copy of R08 dusted off and there are a few stadiums which can be used from that game. Mostly French & English, but there are versions of stadiums for Newport, both Newlands and Kings Park (Durban) as well as outdated versions of Ulster's home stadium and Stadio Flamino.
 
Sorry for the late reply. My laptops not working at the moment so I don't know who much help I can be right now. For the faces, all of the ones in RC1 are in RC2, some are just not assigned to any specific player. I'm not sure how the extra nationalities were added to the game, you'll probably have to track down WiganRL or whatever that dudes name was. Stormers play in Newlands stadiums, not Green Point. Not sure about changing the seeding either.
 
For now, I'm just trying to get a copy of his IRB104 patch - if anyone still has it - just to see how he got the new national teams and nationalities to work.

Also, Have the French guys 2 rugby-game.com been able to ADD completely new stadiums into RC2?
 
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I don't think they actually added completely new stadiums into the game. I think they just found some already made stadiums in the games files that weren't accessible in-game, then edited the database so they were accessible through the game
 
Sure, but from what I've seen on youtube though, it seems that they've simply overwritten some generic stadiums with the files of their 3-4 French stadiums; or they may have replaced both the generic stadiums and their menu names. If the files exist by default in RC2, however, then I assume that they have their own 4-letter codes, or folders (as it's set-up in the cmn.pak file); so it'd be a matter of adding the required lines to the .db to have the hidden French ones as "new/unlocked" stadia without touching/replacing the generic ones.

For the most part, the French stadiums certainly look like Sidhe creations.
 
Holy F%%%! The French stadiums are there! xD

'aime' = Stade Aimé Giral (UEA Perpinyà)
'erne' = Stade Ernest Wallon (Stade Toulousain)
'mayo' = Stade Mayol (R.C. Toulonnais)
'mich' = Parc Michellin (Clermont Auvergne)
'seba' = Stade Sébastien Charléty (Stade Français)
 
Having hunted around on the sidhe forums I've managed to add the following players + faces:
Mils Muliaina - 204,
Rocky Elsom - 283,
Sonny Bill Williams - 249,
Jerome Kaino - 201,
Mike Delany - 229,
Stephen Hoiles - 291

Does anyone know the hex ID# for: Nathan Sharpe, Sterling Mortlock,
Chris Paterson & Lewis Moody?
 
Hey guys,

I've tried installed both patches which have the 5 French stadiums unblocked, (the 2014 Rugby Championship + Rugby-Game v4.1 patch), and both of them crash on me.... Any ideas why? I've also tried adding the stadiums manually via hex:

00 00 75 04 00 00 01 04 20 00 01 01 53 74 61 64 65 20 45 72 6E 65 73 74 2D 57 61 6C 6C 6F 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 65 72 6E 65 00 00 76 04 00 00 36 04 20 00 01 01 53 74 61 64 65 20 4D 61 79 6F 6C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 6D 61 79 6F 00 00 77 04 00 00 08 04 20 00 01 01 53 74 61 64 65 20 53 C3 A9 62 61 73 74 69 65 6E 20 43 68 61 72 6C C3 A9 74 79 00 00 73 65 62 61 00 00 78 04 00 00 2F 04 20 00 01 01 53 74 61 64 65 20 41 69 6D C3 A9 2D 47 69 72 61 6C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 61 69 6D 65 00 00 79 04 00 00 2E 04 20 00 01 01 53 74 61 64 65 20 4D 61 72 63 65 6C 2D 4D 69 63 68 65 6C 69 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 6D 69 63 68

But all I get is crashes...
 
Hey guys,

I've tried installed both patches which have the 5 French stadiums unblocked, (the 2014 Rugby Championship + Rugby-Game v4.1 patch), and both of them crash on me.... Any ideas why? I've also tried adding the stadiums manually via hex:

00 00 75 04 00 00 01 04 20 00 01 01 53 74 61 64 65 20 45 72 6E 65 73 74 2D 57 61 6C 6C 6F 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 65 72 6E 65 00 00 76 04 00 00 36 04 20 00 01 01 53 74 61 64 65 20 4D 61 79 6F 6C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 6D 61 79 6F 00 00 77 04 00 00 08 04 20 00 01 01 53 74 61 64 65 20 53 C3 A9 62 61 73 74 69 65 6E 20 43 68 61 72 6C C3 A9 74 79 00 00 73 65 62 61 00 00 78 04 00 00 2F 04 20 00 01 01 53 74 61 64 65 20 41 69 6D C3 A9 2D 47 69 72 61 6C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 61 69 6D 65 00 00 79 04 00 00 2E 04 20 00 01 01 53 74 61 64 65 20 4D 61 72 63 65 6C 2D 4D 69 63 68 65 6C 69 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 6D 69 63 68

But all I get is crashes...

Is there anything else that I have to do to get the 5 stadiums working besides just adding the strings? I.E. how can I set them via a hex editor in custom22.db as the home stadiums for the 5 respective clubs & how can i set them in the fixtures for the TOP14 and the Heineken Cup?
 
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I've also tried adding the stadiums manually via hex, but all I get is crashes...
I'm no expert, but I remember seeing people saying that if you add hex to the file, then you have to change another part of the file so it registers that the file is bigger, or something along those lines anyway.

As for changing it so you can see them in the Top 14 etc, I don't think anyone ever figured that out.
 
I'm no expert, but I remember seeing people saying that if you add hex to the file, then you have to change another part of the file so it registers that the file is bigger, or something along those lines anyway.

As for changing it so you can see them in the Top 14 etc, I don't think anyone ever figured that out.

Ohk, so it's more than just adding the stadium lines themselves. The whole database has to be registered as a bigger file.

Hmm, well I'm thinking if they've managed to do it for the Rugby Championship, then the other tournaments must be possible. It's just a matter of understanding code, really!

It'd be a real shame, since you're only seeing the realistic Irish/Welsh/French stadiums in friendly test matches....
 
Guys I've found this post on the Sidhe forums:

Fasolin said:
To add extra stadiums to the db, you'll need to update the remainder table offsets after the stadium struct table offset.


Now Sidhe didn't explain where the table offsets starts, which is actually after the 4 bytes version number. To calculate the size of the table offsets section it's 4 x 60 tables, which is 240 and in hex it's F0. Each table offset is 4 bytes in size I believe.+


I have found that seems to be only 58 tables prescribed.

Does anyone know how to add the required data to update each table header to incorporate the 5 stadiums' hex strings?
 
Big thanks to jmmontoro who helped me out with unlocking the 5 French stadiums! Now I'd want to try to enable them in the tournament fixtures for Top14 & Heineken Cup.
 
Has anyone made any artwork (logos/kits/flags?) for the Maori All Blacks? I've just made a team comprising of available players from the 2012 & 2013 squads! :D
 
I've activated all the correct mnemonic codes to hear commentary intros for all the TOP14 teams except for Montois.

+ Activated flags for:
*Clermont-Auvergne
Grenoble
*Racing Metro 92
*Stade Francais
*Toulonnais
*Stade Toulousain
S.U. Agen
Montois
Bordeaux


Rochelais
Lou

& the Cheetahs, Stormers, Sharks and Bulls from RSA.
 

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