Referee, Touchline Officials, Video Ref and Rugby League.

[Dizzy]

Ok, so last night was the first time I have ever sat down and actually watched a game of league[only because the Warriors were in it] and you know what I was most impressed with??. The refereeing of the game. It was spot on and quite perfect in fact.
The referee made good judgement calls but the thing that impressed me the most was the video referee.

THAT IS HOW A VIDEO REFEREE SHOULD BE OPERATING.

Why can the IRB not implement this in Rugby?.
There was a certain try to Kieran Foran at one part where they showed two different angles of Foran's grounding. It was a dead certain try and I KNOW that if it was Rugby, they would have awarded it right there and then. BUT they went to another angle and you could see at the exact time of grounding, Forans hand was like a couple centermetres off the ball and No Try was awarded. There was another try that would've went to the Warriors if they were playing Rugby, but the video referee didn't award the try because the ball had come off Vatuvei's hand in the air. I thought it was magnificient that the video referee was able to pick that up and make the call, unlike the video referees we have.

We see players dislodging the ball from the attacking teams arms as they fall for the line and it gets called a KNOCK ON, This is pathetic and League shows us up in so many ways where they use the video technology as it should be used.

Rugby referees and refereeing in general needs a good kicking up the backside.

 

[JW.]

Reffing a game of Rugby league is alot easier than Rugby union. But that beeing said the refs in league are very good.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

It's funny because generally the standard of refereeing in Rugby League is atrocious!
I do like the use of the TMO to be able to go back a play the ball, not just be used in the actual try - would like to see that implemented in Union (go back one phase of play)

 

[JW.]

It's funny because generally the standard of refereeing in Rugby League is atrocious!
I do like the use of the TMO to be able to go back a play the ball, not just be used in the actual try - would like to see that implemented in Union (go back one phase of play)

Really? Most of the games I've seen they were pretty spot on? Only some internationals and quite alot of Challenge cup though.

 

[Teh Mite]

Mungoball refereeing is so pathetic that every single decision goes to the TMO (or put on report to be checked on the video later).

Union needs to drop 50% of the pointless laws and then then the refereeing issues will be sorted.

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

It's funny because generally the standard of refereeing in Rugby League is atrocious!
I do like the use of the TMO to be able to go back a play the ball, not just be used in the actual try - would like to see that implemented in Union (go back one phase of play)

We already did in the Tri Nations

 

[donmcdazzle]

Mungoball refereeing is so pathetic that every single decision goes to the TMO (or put on report to be checked on the video later).

Union needs to drop 50% of the pointless laws and then then the refereeing issues will be sorted.

I must've eaten something funny cause I find myself agreeing with the majority of what you're saying. Way too many pointless almost irrelevant rules in rugby.

 

[Dizzy]

As for the citings and bannings and fines given by the IRB. They can be compared to the "in"-justice system. I mean, Tuilagi getting fined 10k for a branded mouth guard where Wilkinson get's off with nothing for swapping balls where you could say this had an effect on the outcome of the match considering he has complained about the ball being difficult to kick is erratic.
Hufanga get's a 5 week ban for his "tip" tackle on Clerc where it's clear it wasn't intentional, it was a combination of the speed, timing and force. Yet, Brussouw doesn't even get cited for "striking" Williams in the back of the head?.

If there are going to be so many laws in the game yet simple and fair calls can't be made then what is the point.

 

[TNT88]

Dizzy, if there is one thing we don't want to copy, it is their judiciary system. In union hardly anyone ever gets suspended for anything. And when they do it is usually for a cheap shot anyway.

League shits on us when it comes to the video replay.

As to the officiating. You simply cannot compare the two sports. Remember that in the NRL grand final, that was probably close to the best league referees in the world. I'm sure the Union semi and grand finals will also look good in terms of officiating.

In league the fouls are more clear cut. In union interpretation of the law is much more heavily involved. So you can't really compare.

 

[TRF_RC]

In union interpretation of the law is much more heavily involved.

Spot on, right there.
Interpretation. There is no clear cut ruling on some of the laws at the break down, there's just things referee need to look out for, which often leaves fans of the penalised team feeling very hurt and wrongly done, especially when there are two penalties being committed by both teams at the same time.

 

[Dizzy]

Dizzy, if there is one thing we don't want to copy, it is their judiciary system. In union hardly anyone ever gets suspended for anything. And when they do it is usually for a cheap shot anyway.

League shits on us when it comes to the video replay.

As to the officiating. You simply cannot compare the two sports. Remember that in the NRL grand final, that was probably close to the best league referees in the world. I'm sure the Union semi and grand finals will also look good in terms of officiating.

In league the fouls are more clear cut. In union interpretation of the law is much more heavily involved. So you can't really compare.

I understand what you are saying, but I feel it's ok to compare when things like forward passes are concerned[before you get on my case I'm not talking about THAT forward pass] In this World Cup there have been SOO many forward passes that haven't been picked up it's ridiculous. Did you see the long throw in by Canada on the weekend?. Things like that.
From memory there was one pass in the final that was called forward but it was very marginal. The referee picked it up immediately and that's how it should be.

As for interpretations of the laws. I honestly don't think the referee's are interpreting the laws as heavily as you think.

 

[Tricia McMillan]

Union needs to drop 50% of the pointless laws and then then the refereeing issues will be sorted.

I would disagree with this in principle. A lot of union's laws are in place to protect the safety of players. Yes, it is a brutal sport but if a certain method of tackling can be banned, or a complex set of laws about the scrum bet written, I don't think they're a waste of space. I would rather see a bunch of scrum resets for "improper engagement" than to see a front row forward break his neck.