Name a 15 man team (<30 years old)

[TRF_stormer2010]

1. Marcus Horan
2. Jerry Flannery
3. John Hayes
4. Donnacha O'Callaghan
5. Paul O'Connell
6. Shane Jennings
7. David Wallace
8. James Coughlan
9. Peter Stringer
10. Ronan O'Gara
11. Gordan D'Arcy
12. Paddy Wallace
13. Brian O'Driscoll
14. Shane Horgan
15. Geordan Murphy

You forgot the asterisks.

 

[calculon]

1. Marcus Horan
2. Jerry Flannery
3. John Hayes
4. Donnacha O'Callaghan
5. Paul O'Connell
6. Shane Jennings
7. David Wallace
8. James Coughlan
9. Peter Stringer
10. Ronan O'Gara
11. Gordan D'Arcy
12. Paddy Wallace
13. Brian O'Driscoll
14. Shane Horgan
15. Geordan Murphy

lol, I think you just ran out of older players there and were forced to include some younger ones! - or are there any u-30 players there? You have about 15 under-30 players to chose from from the squad - many of them among the best in Europe... plus some pretty good ones that were left out of the squad.
You're all just taking the ****. I'm moving!

 

[big ginger 8]

He named a team of over 30s

Mine
1. Healy*
2. Best*
3. Hagan*
4. Kevin McLaughlin
5. Dan Tuohy?
6. Ferris*
7. O'Brien*
8. Heaslip*
9. Murray*
10. Sexton*
11. Fitzgerald
12. McFadden*
13. Bowe*
14. Trimble*
15. Kearney*

More a case of getting the players on to the team know backrow doesn't work and Bowe's a 14.

 

[Me 1]

Just to annoy Calculon

1. Gethin Jenkins*
2. Matthew Rees
3. Adam R. Jones*
4. Adam M. Jones
5. Robert Sidoli
6. Ryan Jones*
7. Martyn Williams
8. Andy Powell*
9. Dwayne Peel
10. Stephen Jones*
11. Shane Williams*
12. Ceri Sweeney
13. Sonny Parker
14. Gareth Thomas (I tried)
15. Lee Byrne*

Well, despite some key players, the under 30s are better overall than the over 30s.

 

[Nicolaas]

1. Beast Mtawarira*
2. Bismarck du Plessis*
3. Jannie du Plessis*
4. Flip van der Merwe*
5. Andries Bekker
6. Heinrich Brussouw*
7. Jean Deysel
8. Willem Alberts*

9. Fourie du Preez*
10. Patrick Lambie*
11. Lwazi Mvovo
12. Jean de Villiers*
13. Jacques Fourie*
14. JP Pietersen*
15. Francois Steyn*

Patrick Lambie can do anything Morne Steyn can do + he is more attacking + he can tackle.

Btw im not sure if jean de villiers is 30 yet??

 

[calculon]

He named a team of over 30s

Mine
1. Healy*
2. Best*
3. Hagan*
4. Kevin McLaughlin
5. Dan Tuohy?
6. Ferris*
7. O'Brien*
8. Heaslip*
9. Murray*
10. Sexton*
11. Fitzgerald
12. McFadden*
13. Bowe*
14. Trimble*
15. Kearney*

More a case of getting the players on to the team know backrow doesn't work and Bowe's a 14.

1. Cian Healy *
2. Sean Cronin *
3. Stephen Archer
4. Kevin McLaughlin
5. Devin Toner
6. Donnacha Ryan *
7. Sean O'Brien *
8. Jamie Heaslip *
9. Conor Murray *
10. Johnny Sexton *
11. Luke Fitzgerald
12. Fergus McFadden *
13. Simon Zebo
14. Tommy Bowe *
15. Rob Kearney *

 

[King_D'Arcy]

I'm gonna go 5 better and name a team of under 25s!!!

1. Healy*
2. Cronin*
3. Hagan*
4. Nagle*
5. Toner*
6. Ruddock*
7. Dominic Ryan*
8. O'Brien*
9. Murray*
10. Keatley*
11. Fitzgerald*
12. McFadden*
13. O'Malley*
14. Earls*
15. Jones*

I dunno what the *s are for but they were a fun addition

*I am aware that some players are 25 but I mean equal to or younger than 25 years old

 

[calculon]

I'm gonna go 5 better and name a team of under 25s!!!

1. Healy*
2. Cronin*
3. Hagan*
4. Nagle*
5. Toner*
6. Ruddock*
7. Dominic Ryan*
8. O'Brien*
9. Murray*
10. Keatley*
11. Fitzgerald*
12. McFadden*
13. O'Malley*
14. Earls*
15. Jones*

I dunno what the *s are for but they were a fun addition

*I am aware that some players are 25 but I mean equal to or younger than 25 years old

*'s is for being included in the 30 man world cup team - about 6 of those guys - good selection though! - hopefully some for the future.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

1. Healy*
2. Best*
3. Hagan
4. McLaughlan
5. Toner
6. Dom. Ryan
7. O'Brien*
8. Heaslip*
9. Reddan*
10. Sexton*
11. Gilroy
12. McFadden*
13. O'Malley
14. Bowe*
15. Kearney*

I will now go 7 better... Subs (HA)

16. Cronin*
17. McAllister
18. Tuohy
19. Ruddock
20. Murray*
21. Keatley
22. Jones

Ha I even managed to keep Earls and Fitzgerald out, that is a minimum of 3 wasted try chances a match.

 

[Darwin]

I'm gonna go 5 better and name a team of under 25s!!!

1. Healy*
2. Cronin*
3. Hagan*
4. Nagle*
5. Toner*
6. Ruddock*
7. Dominic Ryan*
8. O'Brien*
9. Murray*
10. Keatley*
11. Fitzgerald*
12. McFadden*
13. O'Malley*
14. Earls*
15. Jones*

I dunno what the *s are for but they were a fun addition

*I am aware that some players are 25 but I mean equal to or younger than 25 years old

I will do a NZ '25 an under' side... (just to show off )

1. Toby Smith
2. Hika Elliot
3. Owen Franks*
4. Luke Romano
5. Sam Whitelock*
6. Victor Vito*
7. Luke Braid
8. Kieran Read*
9. Alby Mathewson
10. Colin Slade*
11. Zac Guildford*
12. Ben Smith
13. Robbie Fruean
14. Isaia Toeava*
15. Israel Dagg*

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I'm gonna go 5 better and name a team of under 25s!!!

1. Alex Corbisiero*
2. Joe Gray
3. Dan Cole*
4. Courtney Lawes*
5. Dave Attwood
6. Tom Wood*
7. Andy Saull
8. Carl Fearns
9. Ben Youngs*
10. Rory Clegg
11. Charlie Sharples
12. Anthony Allen
13. Manu Tuilagi*
14. Chris Ashton*
15. Freddie Burns

 

[JW.]

@ Darwin_23:Half-back combination looks pretty weak? No one else coming up in NZ?

 

[King_D'Arcy]

Colin Slade's a good player but I think Bleyendaal is Carters successor. The man is a machine!

 

[Darwin]

@ Darwin_23:Half-back combination looks pretty weak? No one else coming up in NZ?

Mathewson is a very good halfback - he should be in the RWC squad ahead of Ellis in my opinion (though he doesn't have the kicking game the AB's selectors want in their halfbacks). Behind him there isn't too much in the 'under 25 bracket' - Aaron Smith and Tawera Kerr-Barlow are both promising young players but are probably still a year or so away from reaching their potential (TJ Perenara is another, but he is even younger). Colin Slade is class a 10, as is Aaron Cruden. There are a pile of young talented 10's that have the potential to make the AB's in the next few years e.g. Beauden Barrett, Gareth Anscombe, Tyler Blyeendaal and Lima Sopoaga.

 

[calculon]

1. Healy*
2. Best*
3. Hagan
4. McLaughlan
5. Toner
6. Dom. Ryan
7. O'Brien*
8. Heaslip*
9. Reddan*
10. Sexton*
11. Gilroy
12. McFadden*
13. O'Malley
14. Bowe*
15. Kearney*

I will now go 7 better... Subs (HA)

16. Cronin*
17. McAllister
18. Tuohy
19. Ruddock
20. Murray*
21. Keatley
22. Jones

Ha I even managed to keep Earls and Fitzgerald out, that is a minimum of 3 wasted try chances a match.

Reddan has turned 30 I think. EDIT: Continue offtopicness. It's all fun

 

[JW.]

Saw him playing for the Bleus a couple of times this season wasen't all to impressed? Thought he got outplayed by Ellis when they met. But Ellis was on the winning side.

Weak was propably harsh though, thanks for the info, I'll look out for those names.

*EDIT*

Not offtopic just discussing the teams put on here? Thats what it should be no?

 

[Darwin]

Saw him playing for the Bleus a couple of times this season wasen't all to impressed? Thought he got outplayed by Ellis when they met. But Ellis was on the winning side.

Weak was propably harsh though, thanks for the info, I'll look out for those names.

*EDIT*

Not offtopic just discussing the teams put on here? Thats what it should be no?

Yeah, I do remember Mathewson getting outplayed by Ellis when they met. If I remember correctly, it was wet match, and Mathewson's lack of a kicking game was exposed. It was one of the few times this season that Mathewson was outplayed though. Mathewson is probably the most dangerous halfback in NZ with the ball in hand as he has fantastic acceleration, and he clears the ball really well. His only weakness is that his kicking game is nowhere near the level of the other NZ halfback contenders (Cowan, Weepu, Ellis, Leonard). With Nonu at 12 (who is not really a playmaker) the AB's use their halfback as a second playmaker, hence kicking skills are vital, and because of this Ellis got picked over Mathewson.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

@calculon serves me right for using wikipedia.

 

[calculon]

@calculon serves me right for using wikipedia.

ahh, see it now - listed as 28 on personal wiki, and 30 on national team wiki. I think he was born in 1980 - so 30, who knows.
I don't question my Wikipedia overmaster. I bow and ask for more wikimation.

 

[donmcdazzle]

Mathewson is a very good halfback - he should be in the RWC squad ahead of Ellis in my opinion (though he doesn't have the kicking game the AB's selectors want in their halfbacks). Behind him there isn't too much in the 'under 25 bracket' - Aaron Smith and Tawera Kerr-Barlow are both promising young players but are probably still a year or so away from reaching their potential (TJ Perenara is another, but he is even younger). Colin Slade is class a 10, as is Aaron Cruden. There are a pile of young talented 10's that have the potential to make the AB's in the next few years e.g. Beauden Barrett, Gareth Anscombe, Tyler Blyeendaal and Lima Sopoaga.

If Sopoaga ever plays for the AB's I'll eat my hat. Perenara is pretty bad at this (very early) stage of his career too. They've both been awful for Wellington this ITM cup.

Cruden is miles ahead of Blyendaal/Barrett/Anscombe too, they're all a couple of years away from being as good. I think James Marshall gets unfairly left out of these 'young players with potential' discussions as far as kiwi players go. He has had a much better season than the likes of sopoaga and anscombe.