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Maybe this is why I don't get the NH club rugby
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<blockquote data-quote="FrenchFan" data-source="post: 618539" data-attributes="member: 70871"><p>If clubs didnt exist there wouldnt be a national side. Where would they get the players from?</p><p>In my experience, great rugby clubs dont cease to exist, they disappear off the radar by leaving the elite. In the 50's and 60's Lourdes was the dominant force in domestic league, today they are in Federale but the club the fans are still there. True fans still support their club even if it falls into a sporting abyss. </p><p>They have also tried before to introduce regional rugby teams, like some franchises, it has n-e-v-e-r worked here. Club culture is too strong. I remember watching one regional teams take on a touring AB team with Lomu. A combined force of say Toulouse - Castres - Bordeau looks great on paper, in practice, nobody wants it. </p><p>There is an interestting situation in the basque country where the 2 clubs (Biarritz, Bayonne) are bottom of the top 14. Biarritz will be relegated barring a miracle. There is talk that they may merge. I can't see it happening in sporting terms because they hate each other. But the economics of the game and the current recession might dictate otherwise. So we could have a scenario of 2 clubs disappareing and reappear into one. We will see. </p><p>I am a fan of my own national team, french players and fans alike sing their anthem with pride. Its not like passion is in short supply here...But you can't put the national side priorities ahead of the clubs.The club culture is too strong. </p><p>When the national team underperforms, the blame must first go to the federation and national coach because they are officialy responsaible for the national team, NOT the clubs. The suits at the Federation appoint the national coach, they dictate all about the national side yet they will never take responsibility and always blame others. Its their culture. They lynched Lievremont after appointing him in the job and will keep PSA in the job, whatever the results on the pitch and consequences to the national team. They're dangerous. </p><p>Professional clubs make people more accountable. Its a culture clash when these 2 meet. And the divide btw clubs and Federation is getting wider. PSA would have been sacked last year had his team finished bottom of the Top14. If he fails this season again, he will stay as a national coach until next WC in 2015. Thats whats wrong with the management of the national team.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrenchFan, post: 618539, member: 70871"] If clubs didnt exist there wouldnt be a national side. Where would they get the players from? In my experience, great rugby clubs dont cease to exist, they disappear off the radar by leaving the elite. In the 50's and 60's Lourdes was the dominant force in domestic league, today they are in Federale but the club the fans are still there. True fans still support their club even if it falls into a sporting abyss. They have also tried before to introduce regional rugby teams, like some franchises, it has n-e-v-e-r worked here. Club culture is too strong. I remember watching one regional teams take on a touring AB team with Lomu. A combined force of say Toulouse - Castres - Bordeau looks great on paper, in practice, nobody wants it. There is an interestting situation in the basque country where the 2 clubs (Biarritz, Bayonne) are bottom of the top 14. Biarritz will be relegated barring a miracle. There is talk that they may merge. I can't see it happening in sporting terms because they hate each other. But the economics of the game and the current recession might dictate otherwise. So we could have a scenario of 2 clubs disappareing and reappear into one. We will see. I am a fan of my own national team, french players and fans alike sing their anthem with pride. Its not like passion is in short supply here...But you can't put the national side priorities ahead of the clubs.The club culture is too strong. When the national team underperforms, the blame must first go to the federation and national coach because they are officialy responsaible for the national team, NOT the clubs. The suits at the Federation appoint the national coach, they dictate all about the national side yet they will never take responsibility and always blame others. Its their culture. They lynched Lievremont after appointing him in the job and will keep PSA in the job, whatever the results on the pitch and consequences to the national team. They're dangerous. Professional clubs make people more accountable. Its a culture clash when these 2 meet. And the divide btw clubs and Federation is getting wider. PSA would have been sacked last year had his team finished bottom of the Top14. If he fails this season again, he will stay as a national coach until next WC in 2015. Thats whats wrong with the management of the national team. [/QUOTE]
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