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Maybe this is why I don't get the NH club rugby
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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_heineken" data-source="post: 618387" data-attributes="member: 40658"><p>This is again a misconception.</p><p></p><p>You can't compare the French top 14 with the Super Rugby tournament. Super Rugby should be compared with the Heineken Cup. The French top 14 should be compared to NZ's ITM cup and to SA's Currie Cup. The Super Rugby uses the franchise system where provincial unions are combined to make up a team. I can go into the whole explanation of the combination of the teams, but I know you know how it has been compiled.</p><p></p><p>Teams in the French top 14 must be compared with ITM Cup teams like Wellington, Auckland and North Harbor and the Currie Cup teams like the Western Province, Griquas and Blue Bulls. </p><p></p><p>This being said, I do think some of the french top teams will overpower the SH union sides. Mainly because of the talented pool of players they have and that the Currie Cup is being used to get the young players into the senior rugby mix. There are big differences in the setup of the SH and NH domestic leagues. And as long as the NH keeps on buying the top SH players big amounts of money, the difference will just remain as it is. </p><p></p><p>The other thing regarding this topic is the media. And how they report on the matches. In SA, because we don't get to see all the games up north, we mostly rely on the reports through the Media. And then in SA's case they always try to mention the SA based players. We will get articles like "Francois Louw stars in Bath win", "Bakkies, Toulon's never-ending engine", "Ruan Pienaar's boot saves Ulster"...</p><p></p><p>You will have to excuse us if we seem cocky, and don't agree with some of the posts in this thread, I for one think that with our top players always moving north, because of our poor currency, the more players that go, the bigger the gap will become between the current top 2 teams and the rest of the nations. For us, our National team is the epitome of our beloved sport. It's the highest honour to get in your rugby career. You wear your Springbok/All Black jersey with pride and you sing your national anthem with emotion.</p><p></p><p>Some of the NH posters seem to see it differently, and that club rugby is the be-all and end-all of rugby. fine, fair enough, but what would a fan do if his club team eventually runs out of money, or gets amalgamated with another team or just ceases to exist? Where will your loyalty go to then?? You won't stop watching rugby in totality if that happens, you will get another team and start supporting them just as you would have your previous team. But National sides remain. Unless of course there is some sort of International incident and the country breaks-up or some other strange phenomenon...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_heineken, post: 618387, member: 40658"] This is again a misconception. You can't compare the French top 14 with the Super Rugby tournament. Super Rugby should be compared with the Heineken Cup. The French top 14 should be compared to NZ's ITM cup and to SA's Currie Cup. The Super Rugby uses the franchise system where provincial unions are combined to make up a team. I can go into the whole explanation of the combination of the teams, but I know you know how it has been compiled. Teams in the French top 14 must be compared with ITM Cup teams like Wellington, Auckland and North Harbor and the Currie Cup teams like the Western Province, Griquas and Blue Bulls. This being said, I do think some of the french top teams will overpower the SH union sides. Mainly because of the talented pool of players they have and that the Currie Cup is being used to get the young players into the senior rugby mix. There are big differences in the setup of the SH and NH domestic leagues. And as long as the NH keeps on buying the top SH players big amounts of money, the difference will just remain as it is. The other thing regarding this topic is the media. And how they report on the matches. In SA, because we don't get to see all the games up north, we mostly rely on the reports through the Media. And then in SA's case they always try to mention the SA based players. We will get articles like "Francois Louw stars in Bath win", "Bakkies, Toulon's never-ending engine", "Ruan Pienaar's boot saves Ulster"... You will have to excuse us if we seem cocky, and don't agree with some of the posts in this thread, I for one think that with our top players always moving north, because of our poor currency, the more players that go, the bigger the gap will become between the current top 2 teams and the rest of the nations. For us, our National team is the epitome of our beloved sport. It's the highest honour to get in your rugby career. You wear your Springbok/All Black jersey with pride and you sing your national anthem with emotion. Some of the NH posters seem to see it differently, and that club rugby is the be-all and end-all of rugby. fine, fair enough, but what would a fan do if his club team eventually runs out of money, or gets amalgamated with another team or just ceases to exist? Where will your loyalty go to then?? You won't stop watching rugby in totality if that happens, you will get another team and start supporting them just as you would have your previous team. But National sides remain. Unless of course there is some sort of International incident and the country breaks-up or some other strange phenomenon... [/QUOTE]
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