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Leicester v Ospreys

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Leicester really picked up in the 2nd half, but i think Ospreys deserved a win.
 
Stupid f**ing Ospreys. If they could have just held onto the ball for even 5mins in that second half they would have won. How could they throw away such a lead? I'm so ****** off.

Scrum was rubbish as everyone except the O's coaches knew it would be. Linout degraded in the seond half to a free for all on the O's line. And two huge defensive lapses from Lions players let the Ospreys down in defense. They should have got four points and denied the Tigers anything from that match, but instead they go to sleep and end up handing the Tigers two points!

Paul James and Cai Griffiths were diabolical, Phillips had his worst gme for a long time and even Burne and Bowe were average. Not good enough considering the injuries the Tigers were carying. A backrow playing in the centre, but the O's couldn't keep hold of the ball to make any use of that.

Edit: well done to Leicester though. That was a great battling display. The Leicester forwrds were superb.
 
Only the Ospreys could throw away such a lead. Useless fecking...

Knowing them they'll top it off by losing the reverse fixture, or away to Viadana or some **** like that.
 
Well done as we got a brilliant game. The Ospreys were good but threw the game away. Credit must go to Leicester who hung in there and got the draw.
Also great debut by that Leicester 12. Look like another fine product from Leicester
 
Well, putting a slightly positive spin on things. The Ospreys have at least got a draw from an away fixture. In this group that could well be the difference to top the pool. I know they should have won, putting them in the driving seat of the pool, but it's far from a disaster. Winning at home against Clermont is essential next week, something they should achieve.

We are probably still in ple position for the group, as I can't see Clermont beating Leicester in Welford Road with many of Leicesters injuries probably cleared up by then. Therefore it's down to the Ospreys to win all their home games, and get the 10points from Viadana, and they should win the group.
 
Seriously, Only the f***ing Ospreys could f*** up a lead like that.

I was cheering for the Ospreys all game, but was delighted to see Stan score the try at the end. He can't be that bad if he is GP top scorer can he? Had a few nice touches today too.

After a few games together that Ospreys back line will be among the best in the competition though, Biggar looks pretty awesome for a 19 year old.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MunsterMan @ Oct 11 2009, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Seriously, Only the f***ing Ospreys could f*** up a lead like that.

I was cheering for the Ospreys all game, but was delighted to see Stan score the try at the end. He can't be that bad if he is GP top scorer can he? Had a few nice touches today too.

After a few games together that Ospreys back line will be among the best in the competition though, Biggar looks pretty awesome for a 19 year old.[/b]

Biggar was brilliant, have'nt seen a lot of him playing and I was impressed with what I saw especilly the angle and offload for Shanes try. But a game that, unless hard work is put it, could well be the story of the Ospreys season.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MunsterMan @ Oct 11 2009, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seriously, Only the f***ing Ospreys could f*** up a lead like that.

I was cheering for the Ospreys all game, but was delighted to see Stan score the try at the end. He can't be that bad if he is GP top scorer can he? Had a few nice touches today too.

After a few games together that Ospreys back line will be among the best in the competition though, Biggar looks pretty awesome for a 19 year old.[/b]

Biggar was brilliant, have'nt seen a lot of him playing and I was impressed with what I saw especilly the angle and offload for Shanes try. But a game that, unless hard work is put it, could well be the story of the Ospreys season.
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I thought Biggar played excellently with the boot and in attack, though on more than one occasion he seemed a little suspect defensively.
 
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Biggar was brilliant, have'nt seen a lot of him playing and I was impressed with what I saw especilly the angle and offload for Shanes try. But a game that, unless hard work is put it, could well be the story of the Ospreys season.[/b]

I thought Biggar played excellently with the boot and in attack, though on more than one occasion he seemed a little suspect defensively.[/b][/quote]

Yup, agree with that. It's not that he's a poor tackler, just that he got caught a couple of times slightly out of position. With Leicesters first try, he just didn't quite drift enough, and was concentrating on the wrong man. It's part of his game that's he needs to improve upon, and one that's straight forward to improve.

But for a 19 y/o playing in the most difficult club cometition on earth, in one of the most intimidating away grounds, he stood up really well. He bounced back superbly from that missed tackle, and helped create a great try and slotted a very calm drop goal. Many a 19 y/o would have lost their nerve after a blunder like that, and lost complete confidence, but not Biggar, and that's one of his big strengths. His kicking to the posts was also impeccable, even with two from within his own half!
 
That Ospreys pack need to have a good hard look at themselves. THEY lost that game, THEY caved too early in the second half, THEY didnt seem to have an ounce of fight in them. Apart from Collins putting in a few big hits I think they totally bottled it in the second half.

Tyrone Howe hit the nail on the head ofter the game when he said you had to question their will to win.

Well done Leicester (an injury ravaged Leicester at that) but for f*** sake Ospreys, grow some balls.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Logorrhea @ Oct 12 2009, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
That Ospreys pack need to have a good hard look at themselves. THEY lost that game, THEY caved too early in the second half, THEY didnt seem to have an ounce of fight in them. Apart from Collins putting in a few big hits I think they totally bottled it in the second half.

Tyrone Howe hit the nail on the head ofter the game when he said you had to question their will to win.

Well done Leicester (an injury ravaged Leicester at that) but for f*** sake Ospreys, grow some balls.[/b]

At 29-15 you'd think it would be pretty much game over and I think thats what the Ospreys thought, they got complacent thinking a 14 point lead would be enough to secre the win. They need a good hard look at the game dvd to work out what happened. As you say credit to Leicester in fighting back with a "weaker" side.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bristol-iain @ Oct 12 2009, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
At 29-15 you'd think it would be pretty much game over and I think thats what the Ospreys thought, they got complacent thinking a 14 point lead would be enough to secre the win. They need a good hard look at the game dvd to work out what happened. As you say credit to Leicester in fighting back with a "weaker" side.[/b]

Nahh but come on! You dont put yourself in a position like that away to Leicester and take your foot off the pedal. There is something wrong in that forwards unit. I wouldnt blame the backs at all, it became one way traffic due to the dominance of the Leicester pack so they were always going to make mistakes eventually.

When given half the chance these guys seem to want to hide, not fight. This was the kind of performance that had Ireland calling the Leinster team ladyboys.

Its damned tough trying to support a team like that.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Logorrhea @ Oct 12 2009, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Nahh but come on! You dont put yourself in a position like that away to Leicester and take your foot off the pedal. There is something wrong in that forwards unit. I wouldnt blame the backs at all, it became one way traffic due to the dominance of the Leicester pack so they were always going to make mistakes eventually.

When given half the chance these guys seem to want to hide, not fight. This was the kind of performance that had Ireland calling the Leinster team ladyboys.

Its damned tough trying to support a team like that.[/b]

The Leicester pack has always been strong so the Sprays should have been prepared. I agree that no blame can be levelled on the backs.

They should know, especially the amount of times they have played each other in the last few years, that a full 80 minute effprt is required to win and they just didnt play 80 minutes. A marked improvemnt must be made or they will be out of the competition real fast.
 
Totally agree with you Logarrhea. In the first half the pack stood up well (apart from at scrum time, but that was always going to be the case with Cai playing). But in the second they were shocking, they coughed up any posetion before they could string 3 phases together. This is where the two props playing fall well short of the mark. Not only were both utterly desroyed in the scrum, but neither could be seen in the open or tight either. What's the point in them being there atall if they can't do anything well? Surely there are some props in the region (playing for Swansea or Neath maybe) that can do something well, at least hold the scrum would be great. The Ospreys persistance with those two bloody props is mind boggling. They are continuanly recruting more backs (Tiquiri) and ignoring their lack of depth in the front row. When everyone is fit (i.e. Adan and Duncan Jones) all is well, but those two cannot be expected to hold up the entire region!

Hallah is also still not performing like he should. He was decent in the first half, getting through lots of tackles and putting pressure on the Leicester halfbacks. But in the second half he was nowhere to be seen. The same can be said for the likes of Alun-Wyn Jones and Ryan Jones, who battled hard, but came out second best in that second period. Ian Gough also had no impact when he came on, I honestly think he's now past it for region and country. With Ian Evans now fit again, why is he not either starting or on the bench?

These things do need to get sorted, because for the quality the Ospreys posses in that pack, the backs find themselves on the back foot, or simply defending far to often. This shouldn't be the case, and a few years ago it wasn't. The Ospreys used to be able to physically bully the majority of teams they came up against, but over the past couple of seasons that's happening less and less often. The question is why?
 

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