Leicester Tigers Thread

[TRF_Olyy]

Is it just me

Yes.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

So this regular season is coming to an end and we finished 3rd with Play-offs to go.

Looking at next season we have leaving:

Coaches
Burke (Head coach) - Left early season
McCarthy (Academy head) - Left mid season to glous
Phil Blake (Defense coach) - N/A

Players
Briggs - Sale
Parling - Exeter
Petersen - Glasgow
Thorn - Retirement/Coaching Reds
Deacon - Retirement
Price - Scarlets
Matera - Argentina
Gibson - Northampton
Salvi - Exeter
Barbieri - Treviso
Mele - Toulouse
Tait - Bayonne
Pohe - USC
Scully - Cardiff Blues
Hamilton - Coventry

Rumoured off still
Bristow (Wasps)

Not yet sign new contracts (I believe are out of contract)
Bell
Whetton
Roberts
Hepetema
Smith
Camacho


Coming IN
Coaches
Mauger - Crusader (Head Coach)
Hansen - Canterbury (Defence/Skills Coach)
Glynn - Tigers Chief scout promoted to head of Academy

Players
Bateman - Exeter Chiefs (Hooker/TH)
Fitzgerald - Chiefs (Super rugby) (Lock/6)
Williams - Worcester (6/Lock)
O'Connor - Blues (Openside)
McCaffrey - Welsh (6/7/8)
Fonua - Welsh (8/Lock)
Betham - Waratahs (Wing/15)

Players and coaches who have signed new deals this season:
Marcos Ayerza
Brugnara
Tom Youngs
Harry Thacker
Dan Cole
Fraser Balmain
Pasquali
Graham Kitchener
De Cheves
Tom Croft
Sam Harrison
Owen Williams
Niall Morris

Coaches
Geordan Murphy
Richard Blaze

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

So with Allen retiring that makes it 19 players leaving this season:

Confirmed
Out
Gibson ----> Northampton Saints
Parling ---> Exeter Chiefs
Price -----> Scarlets
Briggs ----> Sale
Matera ----> Pampas
Deacon ----> Retirement
Scully ----> Cardiff Blues
Pohe ------> USC
Barbieri --> Treviso
Mele ------> Toulouse
Peterson --> Glasgow
Thorn -----> Retirement
Hamilton --> Coventry
Salvi -----> Exeter Chiefs
Hepetema --> NZ
Bristow ---> Wasps
Rhys Williams ---> Moseley
Whetton ------> ?
Allen --------> Retirement

IN (9)
Opeti Fonua ------> IN (London Welsh)
Mike Williams ----> IN (Wuss Warriors)
Brendon O'Connor -> IN (Auckland Blues)
Mike Fitzgerald ----> IN (Chiefs)
Greg Bateman -----> IN (Exeter Chiefs)
Peter Betham -----> IN (NSW Waratahs)
Lachlan McCaffrey > IN (London Welsh)
Jono Kitto ----------> IN (Bay of Plenty & Chiefs development squad)
Dom Barrow ---------> IN (Newcastle Falcons)

So
Briggs replaced by Bateman
Parling replaced by Fitzgerald
Thorn replaced by Williams
Deacon replaced by Barrows
Gibson replaced by McCaffrey
Salvi replaced by O'Connor
Barbieri replaced by Fonua
Mele replaced by Kitto
Scully replaced by Betham

So in general we are getting a bigger younger pack but less experienced, and we are short backs ATM.

Team next season looking like it could be (Without any new signings now)
1) Ayerza, 2) Youngs, 3) Cole
4) Slater, 5) Kitchener
6) Croft/Williams, 7) O'Connor, 8) Fonua
9) Youngs, 10) Williams
12) Manu, 13) Tait
11) Betham, 14) Goneva, 15) Morris

16) Ghilrandini, 17) Mulipola, 18) Balmain
19) Fiitzgerald, 20) Pearce
21) Harrison, 22) Burns, 23) Bell/Thompstone/Benjamin/Loamanu

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Tigers have a received a proposal for 46.25% of the company in return to pay off some loans which would free up between £248,500 to £305,000 a year in interest costs.

The proposal is made by Tom Scott who owns currently 29% of the company as is a non executive director on the board.

The BoD have unanimously ask shareholders to accept said deal and the savings will go towards redevelopment and Player costs.

Make 100% sense to me and a step in the right direction for the club.

 

[Tony Manx]

So it gives him total shareholder control as the resultant shareholding would be above the 75% requirement to do virtually what he wants!

The remaining shareholders have virtually no rights other than under oppression of minorities legislation which is a tortuous process!!

Whether it is good depends on the price paid. Also whether it is a subscription for shares whereby all his money goes into the company as share capital rather than part shares and part loan. The latter part would be capable of repayment.

As always the devil is in the details.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

He will have 46% not 75%

 

[Tony Manx]

Tigers have a received a proposal for 46.25% of the company...............who owns currently 29% of the company .

Proposal plus existing = 75.25%?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

No he has 26% (or something like that after the proposal he will have 46% and will have payed of some loans.

His share will increase like 20%.

 

[Tony Manx]

No he has 26% (or something like that after the proposal he will have 46% and will have payed of some loans.

His share will increase like 20%.

Ah! Not how I read your initial post so apologies!! Any increase in capital or reduction in liabilities is good news for English rugby in general and the club in particular!

If all clubs were capable of being similarity financially strengthened, and also conducted with a business plan that saw them profitable, then English club rugby could start to compete with the French clubs on an equal footing for top players!

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Shareholders agree overwhelmingly to accept the investment deal from Tom Scott.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Jacob Umaga starts for Leicester and Another Tuilagi is on the bench this weekend Jacob Nephew of Tana and son of Mike Fred is son of Freddie Snr And Odogwu gets his first "Senior" Start with Worth and Douglas in the backs.

Still in our academy.

Leicester Tigers (v Loughborough University, Welford Road, Saturday 4pm)
15 George Worth
14 Wesley Douglas
13 Matt Smith
12 Jack Roberts
11 Paolo Odogwu
10 Jacob Umaga
9 George Tresidder
1 Riccardo Brugnara
2 Harry Thacker
3 Tiziano Pasquali
4 Alex Galletly
5 Joe Maksymiw
6 Charlie Beckett (c)
7 Will Owen
8 Christian Loamanu

Replacements
Jake Farnworth
Ross Penn-Symonds
Fred Tuilagi
Will Evans
Oliver Povoas
Ben White
Harry Simmons
Oli Bryant
Sam Yawayawa

 

[GreenTiger]

Good except you need Laurence Pearce on. He's brilliant in my opinion.

 

[French Tiger]

Very bad news with the injury for three months of Mike Williams, who is in my opinion one of the best 3 tigers since the beginning of the season, maybe even the best.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Yep big loss

 

[Geordie]

I see your chasing our young hooker George McGuigan.

I hope not as I really rate him. Just needs to fix his lineout throws a bit...but elsewhere hes a cracker.

 

[Mumbles119]

I am a bit lost on who is considered as which back row position out of the back row squad players Leicester have. Some clarity would be greatly appreciated...

I see Tom Croft is selected at 7 for this weekend, and going by the endless discussions we have all had on the England threads, Tom would not be considered an out and out 7 but certainly a 6.

Brendan O'Connor is an obvious natural 7, but what are Mike Williams and Fitzgerald considered to be? Are there other natural 7 type back rows in the Leicester squad?

 

[youngforward]

I am a bit lost on who is considered as which back row position out of the back row squad players Leicester have. Some clarity would be greatly appreciated...

I see Tom Croft is selected at 7 for this weekend, and going by the endless discussions we have all had on the England threads, Tom would not be considered an out and out 7 but certainly a 6.

Brendan O'Connor is an obvious natural 7, but what are Mike Williams and Fitzgerald considered to be? Are there other natural 7 type back rows in the Leicester squad?

Thackers not a natural 7 but he'd be great there

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Croft is covering 7 ATM isn't really Considered a out and out 7 just with O'Connor injured and McCaffrey given a rest he is playing there.

Fitz and Williams are both 6 and Locks.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

In terms of 7's

We have
O'Connor
McCaffrey
Thacker (has had game time there)

Development squad:
Owen (Eng U20 on loan to Doncaster ATM)

Academy
Evans (Eng u18)
Reffel (Wales U16)

 

[youngforward]

Is Telusa Veainu injured or something? Where is he in the squad?