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<blockquote data-quote="gingergenius" data-source="post: 374601" data-attributes="member: 33219">Well I can&#039;t deny that my mind is already made up.But, my mind&#039;s made up because everytime I see Ireland play, they&#039;re either going backwards or they should be but the ref&#039;s being an idiot.Remember back in 2008 (I think it was) when England played Australia? The Aussies got about a million penalties at the scrum, totally against the form book and totally against what was happening in the game. The referee completely ****** up.To me, the scrum is a vital part of rugby union - thus if one team has an obvious advantage (in other words shoving the opposition pack into last week), then they should bloody well get credit for it. Which is why I get very cross when the scrum is reffereed so poorly, the same way it&#039;s frustrating to see an adventurous team scuppered by shite reffing at the breakdown.And frankly, yesterday&#039;s game was a case in point. Ireland did hold their own in a few scrums. Not the majority. I think it was the first or 2nd scrum of the game, in the French 22. Ireland collapsed it, but since the French had already got the ball, the ref allowed play to continue rather than blowing for a penalty, a free kick or at least giving France advantage. France then ****** up and Ireland scored from the turnover. This kind of permissivenesss to Irish collapses happened throughout the game, either they were ignored or the scrum was reset. And the amount that Ireland were pushed backwards on some occasions - that shouldn&#039;t happen at this level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gingergenius, post: 374601, member: 33219"] Well I can't deny that my mind is already made up. But, my mind's made up because everytime I see Ireland play, they're either going backwards or they should be but the ref's being an idiot. Remember back in 2008 (I think it was) when England played Australia? The Aussies got about a million penalties at the scrum, totally against the form book and totally against what was happening in the game. The referee completely ****** up. To me, the scrum is a vital part of rugby union - thus if one team has an obvious advantage (in other words shoving the opposition pack into last week), then they should bloody well get credit for it. Which is why I get very cross when the scrum is reffereed so poorly, the same way it's frustrating to see an adventurous team scuppered by shite reffing at the breakdown. And frankly, yesterday's game was a case in point. Ireland did hold their own [I]in a few scrums[/I]. Not the majority. I think it was the first or 2nd scrum of the game, in the French 22. Ireland collapsed it, but since the French had already got the ball, the ref allowed play to continue rather than blowing for a penalty, a free kick or at least giving France advantage. France then ****** up and Ireland scored from the turnover. This kind of permissivenesss to Irish collapses happened throughout the game, either they were ignored or the scrum was reset. And the amount that Ireland were pushed backwards on some occasions - that shouldn't happen at this level. [/QUOTE]

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