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2024 Guinness Six Nations
Ireland: 6 Nations plusses, minuses and where to go from here
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<blockquote data-quote="snoopy snoopy dog dog" data-source="post: 308248"><p>Very good post <strong>gingergenius</strong>. If I may address it bit by bit:</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p>True. Looking at the bigger picture, they finished 2nd in the tournament. One bad result versus Scotland doesn't make this a bad team.</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p>Once again this is true. Nobody believed Ireland were the best team on the planet but 2009 was a very good year. </p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p>I slightly disagree. The 2010 6 Nations showed that Ireland play a very limited, safe brand of rugby rather than the players are limited. It's terribly boring to watch and doesn't get the most out of the more ralented players in the team. Why should Tommy Bowe and Keith Earls chase kicks all day when they're excellent strike runners?</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p>Lions tour hangover. I've made no secret of my disdain for the Lions and the sheer pointlessness of the tours every 4 years. Tradition is one thing but flogging players on an end of season tour with a scratch team for the sake of a few dollars is a waste of time.</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p>Yep, spot on. Heaslip, Bowe and Earls apart, Ireland weren't good in this tournament. As I mentioned in the Ireland v Scotland thread, the scrum isn't being given a chance to succeed due to a lack of proper coaching. I agree about O'Leary being limited but unfortunately he's the best we have at the minute. At his best, attacking behind a dominant pack, he can be deadly. On other occasions his passing is slow, he's ponderous behind a ruck and his box kicking is nowhere near good enough. I'd like to see Isaac Boss given a run.</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p>Players like Brian O'Driscoll only appear once every 30 years. We're privileged to watch him play and won't see his like for a long time in an Ireland shirt. </p><p></p><p>The IRFU should be commended for the work they're doing growing the sport here. The numbers playing underage rugby are growing considerably. Something which hasn't been commented on but is very significant is that the Ireland u18 clubs team beat the u18 schools team for the first time this season. It's significant because the vast majority of Irish internationals come from the schools system. The growth of the club game is helping expand rugby's base from being a traditionally middle class game to a sport which embraces all. That will translate to a larger playing pool from which to pick players down the line. </p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p>Ireland are close to reaching their full potential at the moment. A few tweaks (such as embracing a more attacking gameplan and tackling the **** poor scrum) and they can challenge for a 6 Nations crown again next season. Anybody who thinks a World Cup win is possible is deluded though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="snoopy snoopy dog dog, post: 308248"] Very good post [b]gingergenius[/b]. If I may address it bit by bit: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> True. Looking at the bigger picture, they finished 2nd in the tournament. One bad result versus Scotland doesn't make this a bad team. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> Once again this is true. Nobody believed Ireland were the best team on the planet but 2009 was a very good year. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> I slightly disagree. The 2010 6 Nations showed that Ireland play a very limited, safe brand of rugby rather than the players are limited. It's terribly boring to watch and doesn't get the most out of the more ralented players in the team. Why should Tommy Bowe and Keith Earls chase kicks all day when they're excellent strike runners? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> Lions tour hangover. I've made no secret of my disdain for the Lions and the sheer pointlessness of the tours every 4 years. Tradition is one thing but flogging players on an end of season tour with a scratch team for the sake of a few dollars is a waste of time. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> Yep, spot on. Heaslip, Bowe and Earls apart, Ireland weren't good in this tournament. As I mentioned in the Ireland v Scotland thread, the scrum isn't being given a chance to succeed due to a lack of proper coaching. I agree about O'Leary being limited but unfortunately he's the best we have at the minute. At his best, attacking behind a dominant pack, he can be deadly. On other occasions his passing is slow, he's ponderous behind a ruck and his box kicking is nowhere near good enough. I'd like to see Isaac Boss given a run. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> Players like Brian O'Driscoll only appear once every 30 years. We're privileged to watch him play and won't see his like for a long time in an Ireland shirt. The IRFU should be commended for the work they're doing growing the sport here. The numbers playing underage rugby are growing considerably. Something which hasn't been commented on but is very significant is that the Ireland u18 clubs team beat the u18 schools team for the first time this season. It's significant because the vast majority of Irish internationals come from the schools system. The growth of the club game is helping expand rugby's base from being a traditionally middle class game to a sport which embraces all. That will translate to a larger playing pool from which to pick players down the line. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> Ireland are close to reaching their full potential at the moment. A few tweaks (such as embracing a more attacking gameplan and tackling the **** poor scrum) and they can challenge for a 6 Nations crown again next season. Anybody who thinks a World Cup win is possible is deluded though. [/QUOTE]
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