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<blockquote data-quote="GarethGriffiths" data-source="post: 886349" data-attributes="member: 75489"><p>Unfortunately, Ncurd, that is exactly what it is.</p><p></p><p>Did anybody ask the ladies who are doing these jobs what their opinion is/was? If not, why weren't they consulted?</p><p></p><p>The President's Club incident is and always will be deeply regrettable, but if we are going to go down the victim card route of 'all women are vulnerable and we must protect them' then frankly we have lost the plot.</p><p></p><p>My niece is 20 and has modelled since she was a child (and yes, the family always took precautions and checked out suitable agencies). She has considered glamour modelling and hostessing, as she has the looks and figure and feels that it is an ideal job for her. Who has the right to deny her her dreams? I thought that we were a tolerant, progressive and diverse country? It seems that diversity of thought and opinion is not allowed!</p><p></p><p>I think that the PC peeps missed a great trick here - why not have men or indeed transgender/intersex people as the walk-ons or the pit peoples? I'd have no problem, if I was a professional darts player, with a transgender person or two walking me on to the Oche. It would have been a major fillip for them, and I am sure that there are many transgender darts fans out there!</p><p></p><p>We've created a victim culture and mentality in this country, where people can just cry if they feel offended or victimised. Grow some backbone for goodness sake peoples! If somebody feels offended by a pretty girl walking on stage or onto the grid, you have a remote control so change channel.</p><p></p><p>Does that mean we can apply this way of puritan thinking to raunchy music videos and have them banned as well? Fair's fair after all!</p><p></p><p>Should all Sex Shops and Ann Summers stores be forced to close, leaving people unemployed and worried about wages and paying the rent?</p><p></p><p>Should Moll Flanders and Lady Chatterley's Lover be banned from Waterstone's and the Classroom because of their 'adult content?'</p><p></p><p>Where does the madness end and common sense begin?</p><p></p><p>Years ago, my uncle was in the crowd when The Sex Pistols played a now infamous gig in Caerphilly. Locals tried to have that concert banned as well, but it went ahead regardless and no harm was done in the end.</p><p></p><p>It's a tad ironic that the 'we must ban' brigade are now almost exclusively on the left, whereas the Mary Whitehouse rabble in the 70s with their Christianity at all costs and ban the blasphemy diktat were all on the right!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GarethGriffiths, post: 886349, member: 75489"] Unfortunately, Ncurd, that is exactly what it is. Did anybody ask the ladies who are doing these jobs what their opinion is/was? If not, why weren't they consulted? The President's Club incident is and always will be deeply regrettable, but if we are going to go down the victim card route of 'all women are vulnerable and we must protect them' then frankly we have lost the plot. My niece is 20 and has modelled since she was a child (and yes, the family always took precautions and checked out suitable agencies). She has considered glamour modelling and hostessing, as she has the looks and figure and feels that it is an ideal job for her. Who has the right to deny her her dreams? I thought that we were a tolerant, progressive and diverse country? It seems that diversity of thought and opinion is not allowed! I think that the PC peeps missed a great trick here - why not have men or indeed transgender/intersex people as the walk-ons or the pit peoples? I'd have no problem, if I was a professional darts player, with a transgender person or two walking me on to the Oche. It would have been a major fillip for them, and I am sure that there are many transgender darts fans out there! We've created a victim culture and mentality in this country, where people can just cry if they feel offended or victimised. Grow some backbone for goodness sake peoples! If somebody feels offended by a pretty girl walking on stage or onto the grid, you have a remote control so change channel. Does that mean we can apply this way of puritan thinking to raunchy music videos and have them banned as well? Fair's fair after all! Should all Sex Shops and Ann Summers stores be forced to close, leaving people unemployed and worried about wages and paying the rent? Should Moll Flanders and Lady Chatterley's Lover be banned from Waterstone's and the Classroom because of their 'adult content?' Where does the madness end and common sense begin? Years ago, my uncle was in the crowd when The Sex Pistols played a now infamous gig in Caerphilly. Locals tried to have that concert banned as well, but it went ahead regardless and no harm was done in the end. It's a tad ironic that the 'we must ban' brigade are now almost exclusively on the left, whereas the Mary Whitehouse rabble in the 70s with their Christianity at all costs and ban the blasphemy diktat were all on the right! [/QUOTE]
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