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YoungBlackie
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Lol then the ball would never be passed out :lol:
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Petden
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I love playing as a forward. I may be very small but, as you said size isnt everything. My coach told us to look at it as the first person there needs to tackle the other person in the ruck. Once that first man has made that hit/engage in the ruck then everyone may bind on to him. Also because of that initial hit/engage they will have stronger footing. Our forwrds are not afraid of anyone, no matter the size. Unfortunately the same can not be said about your wingers. If i switch to wing, I am forced to take charge at times from the outside center position.
To relate it back to the topic, and to make my point, I believe that with proper tackling form rucks are nothing to worry about. I would rather go into a ruck than be in the fullback position and know that if i miss the tackle the other team will get a try.
That's just my opinion. Focus on tackling form.
To relate it back to the topic, and to make my point, I believe that with proper tackling form rucks are nothing to worry about. I would rather go into a ruck than be in the fullback position and know that if i miss the tackle the other team will get a try.
That's just my opinion. Focus on tackling form.
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alexrugby
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Encourage them, tell that girls give you phone numbers more when they see you brave!
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Petden
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The only way to get rid of the fear is experience. It ttok me two years to fully understand the concept of fearing no one.
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alexrugby
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Yeah! I agree bro...
When you understand You are not from glass, another heart opens within
But I was just joking
What about ruck with such players I would also join them willingly:
When you understand You are not from glass, another heart opens within
But I was just joking
What about ruck with such players I would also join them willingly:
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Thingimubob
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From playing a couple of 2nd team games for my school recently, I can see that it can still be a problem if it's not sorted out early enough. Something I noticed was some of the smaller backs just wouldn't go into the rucks, and we'd lose the ball a lot (which is a problem, since we have a small pack, but good backs, so we need all the ball we can get). I mean, like I said in an earlier post, I'm a winger, but whatever position you play you've gotta get stuck it! It's quite fun wiping someone off the ball, and it makes you feel good when you make them give away a penalty for holding on 
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alexrugby
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Bad when you lose balls which you have to pick up
I think players must understand if they play rugby they will newer be treated like ballet dancers
I think players must understand if they play rugby they will newer be treated like ballet dancers
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Woldog
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In my view the only way to get younger players into rucks is to simply beam praise on them at every opportunity, on all the players that is. I'm not very big, yet every game you will see me going over the rucks be cause back when I was about grade 8 my coach said "Tim we need to get you in there doing the big hits, you have the power you just need the heart." from then he put me in the forwards as hooker (partly because I can throw damn well.) So yeah just praise them, make them all feel important and in no time they will be going over rucks and making big tackles in order to "keep the praise" coming.
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alexrugby
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How can not I agree you my friend Woldog
When coach encourages young players and heightens their warrior soul, guys fall into rucks with "pleasure"
As they deserve more and more then from coaches.
I think the courage and the braveheart are one of the first and outstanding features of rugby players.
When coach encourages young players and heightens their warrior soul, guys fall into rucks with "pleasure"
As they deserve more and more then from coaches.
I think the courage and the braveheart are one of the first and outstanding features of rugby players.
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Propie
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Our coach used to just push us into it.. LOL!
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Hall
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Interesting thread this, I've always loved rucking.
I don't know whether thats because I'm a back that has aspirations of being a flanker (My speed is considered 'a waste' in the forwards) and I sort of want to prove myself. Or that as a back you always have the stigma of being a wimp and I wanted to prove people wrong.
Either way, I make little distinction between searing down the wing for a try and turning opposition ball over in the ruck. Its all the same to me.
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I would also make a point of telling them that the contact area is the most importat part of the game. You win the battles at ruck time and you generally win the game.
I don't know whether thats because I'm a back that has aspirations of being a flanker (My speed is considered 'a waste' in the forwards) and I sort of want to prove myself. Or that as a back you always have the stigma of being a wimp and I wanted to prove people wrong.
Either way, I make little distinction between searing down the wing for a try and turning opposition ball over in the ruck. Its all the same to me.
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I would also make a point of telling them that the contact area is the most importat part of the game. You win the battles at ruck time and you generally win the game.
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alexrugby
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Yeah thread is amazing and touches the problem:
Anyway I am repeated_ Rugby is the play of Men who aren't afraid of anything in this world
Encouragement, Experience, Drive and etc. will give player (young) an opportunity to overcome the fear and ruck with ease
I am not a rugby player, instead I am Critical care physician Resident but I happened to press among my old rugby friends on a ground!!!!!
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I have almost died
Anyway I am repeated_ Rugby is the play of Men who aren't afraid of anything in this world
Encouragement, Experience, Drive and etc. will give player (young) an opportunity to overcome the fear and ruck with ease
I am not a rugby player, instead I am Critical care physician Resident but I happened to press among my old rugby friends on a ground!!!!!
:Forum09: :Forum09: :yahoo: :yahoo: :help: :help: :help: :girl_hospital: :angel: :SHABLON_padonak_01: :SHABLON_padonak_02: :SHABLON_padonak_03: :rock: :bowdown: :vomit: :doctor1df: :Forum58:
I have almost died
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Woldog
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Or you could try another approach, tell your players what you will do to them if they don't go over the rucks.
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Flux
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Try and make it a competition. Whoever had the most or biggest ruck marks when I played rugby was always greatly admired, I've always assumed it was like that in most teams.
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Fa'atau82
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You need one thing to play rugby, and that is to be able to enjoy physicality. Rugby is not a dangerous sport.. it has less serious injuries in general than other non-contact sports.
You need to learn how to take the ball into contact without injuring yourself and the opponent, whilst getting maximum gain and setting-up an organised ruck. Players only get injured when players have malicious intent, rather than the actual ruck itself.
I find that if you charge with your shoulder as you go into contact as low as possible it helps as you go to ground. When you are on the ground, release the ball the best timing you can and then cover your head with your hands, sort of like a brace position on your side, with your legs together.
I found that it helps, as there is less to get trod on. The only time i got injured in a ruck was when i was getting punched in the mouth, bitten, pinched, scratched etc by cheating assholes. It's not the actual ruck, and it's not every team who uses that cheap ass tactic.
You need to learn how to take the ball into contact without injuring yourself and the opponent, whilst getting maximum gain and setting-up an organised ruck. Players only get injured when players have malicious intent, rather than the actual ruck itself.
I find that if you charge with your shoulder as you go into contact as low as possible it helps as you go to ground. When you are on the ground, release the ball the best timing you can and then cover your head with your hands, sort of like a brace position on your side, with your legs together.
I found that it helps, as there is less to get trod on. The only time i got injured in a ruck was when i was getting punched in the mouth, bitten, pinched, scratched etc by cheating assholes. It's not the actual ruck, and it's not every team who uses that cheap ass tactic.
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Woldog
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I have gone into hundreds of rucks and never gotten injured only time I've ever been injured playing rugby was a high tackle from the 2007 season when some numb nuts clotheslined me.
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alexrugby
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Woldog @ Jan 3 2009, 07:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I agree Woldog. I also have numerous friends who play in different positions but they always say: if you train hard and in a correct way almost no trauma will defeat you.
Rugby is not a ballet as I wrote last time this is great sport with great demands from sportsmen and you have to follow them
you can use any of the above told ways to encourage your little players, but to ENCOURAGE them finally
I agree Woldog. I also have numerous friends who play in different positions but they always say: if you train hard and in a correct way almost no trauma will defeat you.
Rugby is not a ballet as I wrote last time this is great sport with great demands from sportsmen and you have to follow them
you can use any of the above told ways to encourage your little players, but to ENCOURAGE them finally
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Hall
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Woldog @ Jan 3 2009, 03:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
The only time I've been hurt in a ruck was by one of my team mates. My head was exposed and one of our loacks came in to clear the ruck out. His knee smacked my head. Wasn't really an injury though. Wasn't concussed or anything.
Never been hurt by a high tackle either but last season I had my medial ligament ruptured by a really good low tackle.
The only time I've been hurt in a ruck was by one of my team mates. My head was exposed and one of our loacks came in to clear the ruck out. His knee smacked my head. Wasn't really an injury though. Wasn't concussed or anything.
Never been hurt by a high tackle either but last season I had my medial ligament ruptured by a really good low tackle.
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Fred187
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petden @ Sep 19 2008, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Exactly - my coach back when I was that age (and I was playing Union) just put the whole team through a couple of weeks of nothing but constant ruck training, and everybody (forwards and backs) was just comfortable doing it.
Exactly - my coach back when I was that age (and I was playing Union) just put the whole team through a couple of weeks of nothing but constant ruck training, and everybody (forwards and backs) was just comfortable doing it.
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Petden
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It's a difficult sport, and experience is the key factor to many things, stick with them and hopefully it works out.
