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England Six Nations Squad 2025

Gats said the same about Wales.

I think Gregor Townsenf is more "This could be our year". As is every year Gregor.

Ireland are staying quiet as the world cup dream still stalks them like a lion on the serengeti.

Italy are just happy people stopped banging on about relegation. France are quiet as most people already say they are likely to win it.

I'd go more with Gats he seems a genuine kind of guy.
Borths is more of a straight to HR and get you put on gardening leave kind of guy.
I don't think Gregor has ever said that, I know John Barclay says it almost annually and some players have been known to have said it.

In reality I don't blame a player, you have to go into the competition believing you can otherwise why compete?
 
Is anyone here a fan of Borthwick?

Judging by general comments, very few.
Nope. Under qualified and has made a lot of basic errors. He might be a top tier analyst but he's not going to take this England team forward without first spending 5-8 years of us being rubbish while he learns on the job. England don't look like we've improved at all under Borthwick which is disappointing.
 
I don't think Gregor has ever said that, I know John Barclay says it almost annually and some players have been known to have said it.

In reality I don't blame a player, you have to go into the competition believing you can otherwise why compete?
In all honesty it's more a BBC HYS, and Tom English kind of thing.

As for Borthwick i think he's a decent guy. People seem to like him.

Just it's results and his win rate vs other England coaches is poor. I try to give him the benefit of the doubt as I'm not convinced we have the amount of world class players if any to be a top two \ three team. But part of me feels even saying that we can or should be doing better.

Given all the pressures on the RFU at the moment I'm not sure he survives a poor six nations.
 

I thought he had been set the target of 4 wins?

Anyway, he's getting his excuses in early saying that the number of one sided Prem matches (I'd also add in Europe) doesn't help the players learn how to close out the much tighter affairs that tests often are. For once I find it hard to disagree.
 

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