England Rugby 2018/19 Thread

[TRF_Olyy]

Say what you want about being an England fan: it's rarely boring (other than the actual games, on occasion)

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Nowell has one turnover this season, Tom Curry has 16

lol

 

[curtbob7]

Nowell has one turnover this season, Tom Curry has 16

lol

Aye but Brendan got 20 in 16 apps in 2018

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Aye but Brendan got 20 in 16 apps in 2018

16 in 8 > 20 in 16

 

[curtbob7]

16 in 8 > 20 in 16

I know ahahah. He's off to Japan now anyway, too much injury really affected him. Change in breakdown law didn't help either. Was brilliant at making breaks but our 4-8 have struggled clearing rucks for years so these quality breaks often ended up in him being turned over himself.

 

[Scotty]

JJ back for bath, so who will be injured to restore than balance

 

[Nudger]

tbf hes built like one

And some a faster

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

JJ back for bath, so who will be injured to restore than balance

Te'o?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Te'o?

Don't threaten me with a good time

Alternate funny post:
Surely he'd have to run out for his club to get injured?

 

[Mrs. Peter Quinn]

Just been listening to Dawsons podcast.

Discussion about Danny Care falling from form and being excluded. What I don't get is there's not even a fragment of debate about Ben Youngs and whether he's the best we've got, it's just totally assumed by everyone. Mental.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Just been listening to Dawsons podcast.

Discussion about Danny Care falling from form and being excluded. What I don't get is there's not even a fragment of debate about Ben Youngs and whether he's the best we've got, it's just totally assumed by everyone. Mental.

Youngs and Care have both fallen out of form but Youngs has at least shown an ability to control a game at various points, Care has failed as a starting SH a few too many times recently. Jones should have been trying other 9's way back as pretty much everyone on here said. Now he is in a position with 2 out of form 9's and he can't really replace both at the same time (well he COULD in theory) so he replaces Care. This is a problem of his own creation. Literally everyone else could see it potentially being an issue miles off, same as not having a proper back row or established centre partnership. Really we should have had 3 or 4 tried and tested SH's by now as Youngs and Care were already established before Jones took over.

 

[curtbob7]

Just been listening to Dawsons podcast.

Discussion about Danny Care falling from form and being excluded. What I don't get is there's not even a fragment of debate about Ben Youngs and whether he's the best we've got, it's just totally assumed by everyone. Mental.

See where youre coming from with the need for debate but other than Youngs, its Wigglesworth. Robson is a 'Care Type SH' and hes overtaken Care. Nobody has overtaken Youngs although I concede for Tigers he's been below his usual standards for a while.

 

[Mrs. Peter Quinn]

I'm totally in agreement that Youngs is rightly there over Care, it's the choice of 1st 9 where I'm less happy. Eddie seems sure Youngs is 1st choice.
I'm also not sure Robson is a Care-type 9 - think he's much more than that and could replace Youngs given an opportunity.

 

[curtbob7]

I'm totally in agreement that Youngs is rightly there over Care, it's the choice of 1st 9 where I'm less happy. Eddie seems sure Youngs is 1st choice.
I'm also not sure Robson is a Care-type 9 - think he's much more than that and could replace Youngs given an opportunity.

Just the way games tend to pan out really. Control it first and then when the game opens up, change it. I agree Robson has a higher ceiling than Care ever achieved, hes well rounded and could probably learn a lot from Ben. Combine the two and you've got one hell of a SH.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Robson lacks a good exit game, which is the main reason Youngs is in the team in the first place.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Spencer should be there, imo

Used to be a massive Robson fan but his form has wavered a lot recently. Not to say he wouldn't be in my EPS, he absolutely should.

Spencer looks bloody class, and is the 2nd best box kickeŕ in the country (behind wigglesworth)

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Personally would probably go for 9. Wigs 21. Spencer. As Tigs said, Robson's box kicking is poor. In the past he had a good enough running/support game to make up for his flaws, but that aspect of his game seems to have disappeared this season. In all honesty, I've been more impressed by Hampson than Robson at Wasps as of late.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Spencer should be there, imo

Used to be a massive Robson fan but his form has wavered a lot recently. Not to say he wouldn't be in my EPS, he absolutely should.

Spencer looks bloody class, and is the 2nd best box kickeŕ in the country (behind wigglesworth)

Short of something forcing Jones' hand, I see him as our starting SH post world cup.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Short of something forcing Jones' hand, I see him as our starting SH post world cup.

Ben youngs still has another 10 years in him....

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Danny actually box kicking like a god so far today, making a point maybe