England EPS 2017/18 edition.

[Which Tyler]

Pirates win the Council's 3mil investment.

Which should be matched by central government

 

[FLOBALOB]

Pirates win Cornwall Council and Govt. investment.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ru...tes-granted-funding-new-Stadium-Cornwall.html

Its great news for Cornwall and about time too. They are hoping to have it ready for start of 2019 season.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Is he teaching players how to wink?

Let it gooo. If we get Dean back, then the whole gang could be back together: Williams, Richards and Nev. Who knows what they could concoct as coaches??

 

[ratsapprentice]

Was thinking I might do some stat compilation in certain positions.

I used to do the entire EPS, but the change to the Prem's website makes that a significantly more difficult thing to do... ain't no body got time for that.

First I was gonna do FB, any positions/players outside of that people would be interdasterated in?

 

[Which Tyler]

SH - especially if you'd look beyond Yongs and Care (I so wish Eddie would)

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Would quite like one on back rowers to see how much of a workhorse Robshaw actually is.

 

[RedruthRFC]

Which should be matched by central government

Indeed. The bullet points are misleading. Yesterday's vote was taken by Cornwall Council and was in favour of them providing funding from a development fund. The article itself says that the MP for St Ives will be making representations to secure the government funding promised by David Cameron before the last election. It's a major hurdle negotiated, but the government funding and the £2m of private funding are still significant stumbling blocks that will have to be negotiated.

@FLOBALOB do you have a full breakdown of where the £14.3m is meant to be coming from? I haven't heard anything about the S106 money from Inox recently, were the agreements never reached? However it's funded, I hope it happens (although I'd be amazed if it happens in time for the 2019 season), but it would be pretty sick if Inox have managed to use the project as a vehicle to get the planning they wanted for their housing development without making a contribution to the project. Also, do you know who the two colleges mentioned in the article are? I've only ever heard of Truro College being involved.

 

[FLOBALOB]

Indeed. The bullet points are misleading. Yesterday's vote was taken by Cornwall Council and was in favour of them providing funding from a development fund. The article itself says that the MP for St Ives will be making representations to secure the government funding promised by David Cameron before the last election. It's a major hurdle negotiated, but the government funding and the £2m of private funding are still significant stumbling blocks that will have to be negotiated.

@FLOBALOB do you have a full breakdown of where the £14.3m is meant to be coming from? I haven't heard anything about the S106 money from Inox recently, were the agreements never reached? However it's funded, I hope it happens (although I'd be amazed if it happens in time for the 2019 season), but it would be pretty sick if Inox have managed to use the project as a vehicle to get the planning they wanted for their housing development without making a contribution to the project. Also, do you know who the two colleges mentioned in the article are? I've only ever heard of Truro College being involved.

£6M is coming from Truro FC, The Pirates and Truro and Penwith College (basically one college over 2 sites at Truro and Penzance). £3M from the council, as from yesterday , which the government is going to match as long as its happy with the business plan (Derek Thomas is meeting them today apparently.) The remaining £2M is private funding. Inox arent involved.
Its what Cornwall has needed for donkeys years and a really exciting future for The Pirates hopefully.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Prem only.
Didn't include the one game where Woodward played on the wing, subtracted 80 mins from his total playing time to account for this.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...d-pick-brad-shields-england-south-africa-tour

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

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Prem only.
Didn't include the one game where Woodward played on the wing, subtracted 80 mins from his total playing time to account for this.

But Mike Brown doesn't pass or offload apparently...

 

[ratsapprentice]

For England, he doesn't all that much, and when he does, you wish he hadn't.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...d-pick-brad-shields-england-south-africa-tour

He'll get picked but honestly rather see Willis, Ewers and the Curry bros involved than him this summer tour maybe AI's though.

 

[ratsapprentice]

 

[Mumbles119]

He'll get picked but honestly rather see Willis, Ewers and the Curry bros involved than him this summer tour maybe AI's though.

Agree for this summer to get these names involved more as they should be. Then with Shields for the AIs too, maybe we could see completely different 6 and 7 options to the incumbents starting to take over and change the way England impact the breakdown and game.

6. Shields
7. Willis
8. Vunipola

20. Curry (choice from flavour of the month)

Someone made a point in an earlier post about Willis would suit the heavy lifting to 50/60 minutes and then the faster lighter Curry would rip things up a bit as one of Eddies finisher types.

When I look at the flanker list of Willis, Curry, Curry, Shields, Armand, Simmonds and even Graham, and it feels they are a list of those with the potential to be difference makers in the England game.
Whereas Haskell and Underhill just make me feel they are just fillers and bring only one aspect that England needs.

I could not bring myself to include Robshaw in this second group, as I feel he still brings so much more than just one aspect. Maybe he is slowing, maybe he inst a potential extra difference maker like the the others in the first list, but it feels like I have lost count of seeing him save something, scrag something, hit something at the right and needed time.

 

[Giraffatitan]

NZRU now saying they won't release Shields for the SA tour due to clause in his contract with Canes.

 

[Mumbles119]

NZRU now saying they won't release Shields for the SA tour due to clause in his contract with Canes.

Is not an official international window? If he is qualified, then the NZRU cannot refuse can they?

 

[Which Tyler]

Is not an official international window? If he is qualified, then the NZRU cannot refuse can they?

Which is the single best reason to pick him anyway.

 

[Giraffatitan]

Is not an official international window? If he is qualified, then the NZRU cannot refuse can they?

What I thought as well. Although NZRU are going to contest that. Super Rugby players in NZ who are not tied to a international team have a clause in their contract stating they cannot play for a non New Zealand international team while their SR contract is still running. Seems pretty dubious imo

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12035813

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Yeah it's a weird one, i was under the impression that international windows trump everything but the article I just read said that NZ franchises contracts ban NZ qualified players from playing for non-NZ sides without their permission

Doesn't sound like it'll fly with World Rugby to be fair


Edit: Beaten to it by 1min by the poster above P