England Club vs Country: Round 3

[Teh Mite]

Steele out, Woodward in.

Rugby dies.

 

[Seaton]

In England

Will be looking for our Chife to be sacked as well, Z@cK~McKie!!! hI's 'n (*nT!!!

Hopefully we can sack him, and then employ Steele

 

[Duckdee]

This'll be fun.

 

[Teh Mite]

In England

I think you're underestimating how much the old farts in the RFU can ruin rugby worldwide. They're as corrupt as the WRU while being as powerful as Sanzar.

Troubled waters lie ahead.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

I think you're underestimating how much the old farts in the RFU can ruin rugby worldwide. They're as corrupt as the WRU while being as powerful as Sanzar.

Troubled waters lie ahead.

Care to enlighten?

 

[Teh Mite]

Care to enlighten?

Care to make a case to say they're not?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Why will this be the death of rugby?

 

[Teh Mite]

Why will this be the death of rugby?

Oh FFS, here we go...

The Blazers on the RFU board - those old farts like Martyn Thomas and Fran Cotton who've for years been living a life of luxury being paid thousand per year each under Francis Barons tenure - have been rather upset with John Steele. He joined the RFU as CEO and promised to put rugby first, giving it back to the fans. Not fancy pants big sponsors parties. Not corporate hospitality functions. Not any of that other la de dah bullshit.

That ruffled a few feathers to begin with.

Then he removed Rob Andrew from the Elite role.

That ruffled a few more feathers.

He had the audacity to put money into the grass roots level of the game.

What a *******.

Then he gave control of selection to the coaches.

That really ****** off the old farts.

Then to cap it all off, he created a [strike]"Director of elite performance"[/strike] team manager role in which no one man would overrule the head coach in playing and selection terms. Essentially ruling out Clive Woodward.

This was one step too far for the Gin and Tonic brigade.

Now Woodward will be shoehorned in by hook or crook (most due to Fran Cotton). Before too long, Central Contracts will be mandatory, the Clubs will be raped of resources and rugby in this country will go completely down the shitter, forcing the regional franchises. All of which, CW advocated last time he held a position in the RFU and when he recommended the creation of Rob Andrews old job in the first place.

 

[Duckdee]

Care to enlighten?

Care to make a case to say they're not?

Surely it's easier to prove something has happened, rather than hasn't.

Alternatively, he asked you first.

 

[Teh Mite]

Surely it's easier to prove something has happened, rather than hasn't.

Alternatively, he asked you first.

Maybe, but getting defensive when the WRU are used as a corruption barometer is a pretty frigging lame. The only way I could have embellished the point further would to have used FIFA as an example!

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Hmmmm, I dunno, sounds like a bit of paranoia to me

Fran Cotton is still on the board at Sale (sharks and FC) - why would he want the club game to die?

 

[Teh Mite]

Hmmmm, I dunno, sounds like a bit of paranoia to me

Fran Cotton is still on the board at Sale (sharks and FC) - why would he want the club game to die?

The club game is small beer to the RFU committee.

Listen to this http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/13491627.stm

What would happen if anyone in a real job if they showed public descent towards their boss in that manor? The whole scenario is a complete farce.

Edit: Cleaned up the off topic ******** in this thread and moved it to Off topic.

 

[Feicarsinn]

Oh FFS, here we go...

The Blazers on the RFU board - those old farts like Martyn Thomas and Fran Cotton who've for years been living a life of luxury being paid thousand per year each under Francis Barons tenure - have been rather upset with John Steele. He joined the RFU as CEO and promised to put rugby first, giving it back to the fans. Not fancy pants big sponsors parties. Not corporate hospitality functions. Not any of that other la de dah bullshit.

That ruffled a few feathers to begin with.

Then he removed Rob Andrew from the Elite role.

That ruffled a few more feathers.

He had the audacity to put money into the grass roots level of the game.

What a *******.

Then he gave control of selection to the coaches.

That really ****** off the old farts.

Then to cap it all off, he created a [strike]"Director of elite performance"[/strike] team manager role in which no one man would overrule the head coach in playing and selection terms. Essentially ruling out Clive Woodward.

This was one step too far for the Gin and Tonic brigade.

Now Woodward will be shoehorned in by hook or crook (most due to Fran Cotton). Before too long, Central Contracts will be mandatory, the Clubs will be raped of resources and rugby in this country will go completely down the shitter, forcing the regional franchises. All of which, CW advocated last time he held a position in the RFU and when he recommended the creation of Rob Andrews old job in the first place.

Meh, I wouldn't worry. There have been corrupt or inept boards at the head of every sporting organisation. Rugby won't die, just look at football and FIFA. It's as popular as ever despite having the most useless governing body in sport over it.

 

[Feicarsinn]

Care to make a case to say they're not?

Care to prove you're not an axe wielding maniac? You can't use that form of arguement, it's ridiculous.

 

[Teh Mite]

Meh, I wouldn't worry. There have been corrupt or inept boards at the head of every sporting organisation. Rugby won't die, just look at football and FIFA. It's as popular as ever despite having the most useless governing body in sport over it.

The point I'm making is the club game will go to hell as the life is wringed out of it. Once that falls, there's no support for the the pedastools and everything goes to the dogs.

 

[lucky number 7]

Care to prove you're not an axe wielding maniac? You can't use that form of arguement, it's ridiculous.

Damn you Feic!

 

[Teh Mite]

Care to prove you're not an axe wielding maniac?

Who says I'm not?

 

[Feicarsinn]

The point I'm making is the club game will go to hell as the life is wringed out of it. Once that falls, there's no support for the the pedastools and everything goes to the dogs.

How much power does the RFU exert over the clubs in England? As far as I was aware Premier Rugby is a completely separate organisation. If so, surely the RFU can only influence the club game so much?

 

[Peat]

Who says I'm not?

I wouldn't.

 

[Seaton]

Oh FFS, here we go...

The Blazers on the RFU board - those old farts like Martyn Thomas and Fran Cotton who've for years been living a life of luxury being paid thousand per year each under Francis Barons tenure - have been rather upset with John Steele. He joined the RFU as CEO and promised to put rugby first, giving it back to the fans. Not fancy pants big sponsors parties. Not corporate hospitality functions. Not any of that other la de dah bullshit.

That ruffled a few feathers to begin with.

Then he removed Rob Andrew from the Elite role.

That ruffled a few more feathers.

He had the audacity to put money into the grass roots level of the game.

What a *******.

Then he gave control of selection to the coaches.

That really ****** off the old farts.

Then to cap it all off, he created a [strike]"Director of elite performance"[/strike] team manager role in which no one man would overrule the head coach in playing and selection terms. Essentially ruling out Clive Woodward.

This was one step too far for the Gin and Tonic brigade.

Now Woodward will be shoehorned in by hook or crook (most due to Fran Cotton). Before too long, Central Contracts will be mandatory, the Clubs will be raped of resources and rugby in this country will go completely down the shitter, forcing the regional franchises. All of which, CW advocated last time he held a position in the RFU and when he recommended the creation of Rob Andrews old job in the first place.

In England



Lol, I see why your saying how incompetence mixed with power can negatively affect the global game, with the added problem of the 'next' world cup in Englandshire and other reasons that could have an indirect effects on the Scottish game, but I think rugby can survive even if Britain as a whole sank