Champions Cup 2024 / 25 - Round 4

[duncanb]

Toulose v Leinster final for me ,will be a great match up.
Sad for all of us supporting our teams, but both head and shoulders above rest.

 

[BPM]

May well happen, I reckon the other 3 slots are almost guaranteed. I'd be stunned if anything else went another way.

I dunno. La Rochelle and Saracens have dropped off quite a bit recently, but they're still capable of testing Bordeaux and Toulon.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Toulose v Leinster final for me ,will be a great match up.
Sad for all of us supporting our teams, but both head and shoulders above rest.

I'd say it's Toulouse and Bordeaux, a gap, Leinster, a bigger gap, everyone else

It's a shame it can't be a Toulouse/Bordeaux final

 

[IT157]

Toulose v Leinster final for me ,will be a great match up.
Sad for all of us supporting our teams, but both head and shoulders above rest.

Bordeaux are definitely in the same bracket of quality.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Don't think Toulouse and Bordeaux are better than Leinster at anything but running up a score against weaker sides. Imagine there'll be next to nothing in any potential final involving those three.

 

[mikebrownsauce1512]

Toulose will tire soon
Then we will strike

This post aged well ....

 

[mikebrownsauce1512]

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Tournament's rigged for Leinster so it is.

That's a nice draw. La Rochelle v Munster will be hilarious.

Northampton have a great route.

 

[munstermuffin]

Leinster are good of course. BUT I think what will hurt them is the easy side. They need to be tested.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Leinster are good of course. BUT I think what will hurt them is the easy side. They need to be tested.

Why?

 

[munstermuffin]

Why?

Because they will still possibly not know where they truly are. Just an opinion like they will steamroll teams and not sure where they are.
Like take La Rochelle. Leinster beat them and we thought super result. But then they go an lose to Benneton. So it is like how do we rank that.
Likewise Bristol. I thought wow great win.But having seen Bristol alot since then they are poor. No reflection on Leinster and I do think they would compete with the best teams around and no reason why they can't win but I suppose it just how people view being overcooked/under cooked.

Like next time most Leinster lads play with Leinster will be the Harlequins game.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Because they will still possibly not know where they truly are. Just an opinion like they will steamroll teams and not sure where they are.
Like take La Rochelle. Leinster beat them and we thought super result. But then they go an lose to Benneton. So it is like how do we rank that.
Likewise Bristol. I thought wow great win.But having seen Bristol alot since then they are poor. No reflection on Leinster and I do think they would compete with the best teams around and no reason why they can't win but I suppose it just how people view being overcooked/under cooked.

Like next time most Leinster lads play with Leinster will be the Harlequins game.

I think that way of thinking would have merit if the team hadn't lost 3 finals in a row. They'll know what's needed if they make it that far.

Results suggest the squad is stronger this year than last year. Which you'd expect with the personell changes.

 

[munstermuffin]

I think that way of thinking would have merit if the team hadn't lost 3 finals in a row. They'll know what's needed if they make it that far.

Results suggest the squad is stronger this year than last year. Which you'd expect with the personell changes.

Don't get me wrong it more just an opinion and arguments could be made for every side of it.
I think personally that Leinster it simple - Win The Tournament outright or it is classed as a failure of a year.
Hindsight is a great thing but that will probably be what determines the views.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

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Well tbf it did we scored 2 tries soooo

 

[AngloScotsHybrid]

One thing that hurts Leinster (and Ireland) in the big games is their insistence on always kicking to the corner rather than at goal. I like to see tries as much as anybody but in semis and finals you have to take the easy points.

 

[dirty harry]

Don't think Toulouse and Bordeaux are better than Leinster at anything but running up a score against weaker sides. Imagine there'll be next to nothing in any potential final involving those three.

This is a very good point, especially in the case of Bordeaux. That backline is just ludicrous, but theirnlastb3bgames were pretty tight affairs, low scoring arm wrestles at Toulon, Castres and Montpellier I think.

Their last 2 losses were away to La Rochelle, and Cleremont?

And they've already beaten Tolouse in Tolouse.

I don't think you can right them off, they aren't just an up and coming team, those names are performing on the world stage, not just high flying in the league