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Barrett ahead of Cruden? Carter near the end?
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<blockquote data-quote="ABs2011" data-source="post: 593030" data-attributes="member: 57663"><p>Good discussion point but wow, I'm not sure what rugby you've been watching? Particularly the bit about defense. It is well understood that Barrett's D is an issue. Cruden's D is quite solid for a 10 (not as good as Carter arguably but way better than Barrett). Goal kicking? Mate I wish I had the stats on hand but from observation Cruden's goal kicking is significantly better than Barrett's...</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong, Barrett was impressive off the bench v SA, but one game doesn't make him better than the rest. </p><p></p><p>I agree with Icemn - Cruden is superior to Barrett and arguably even better than DC now. Hard to make calls on this based on international rugby alone as none have played that much lately. BUT if you've watched much Super Rugby over the last couple years Cruden has been far superior than the rest. He is the whole package; running, kicking, passing, D... he has it all!!</p><p></p><p>DC is still a very good player, still one of the worlds best when he decides to turn it on. His experience, leadership and understanding of the game must not be underestimated. Barrett is on the improve and I hope to see him more and more in the AB jersey as I believe once DC goes, Barrett will be a fine back-up to Cruden. But for me Cruden is #1 now although in reality is a 50-50 call with the edge to Carter in the selectors eyes due to experience (particularly in the big games). Ask you serlf, if the WC final was tomorrow, and all three were fit, who would start??</p><p></p><p>Disc: Slight Manawatu bias!! (Cruden might even play ITM cup this week I here ;_</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ABs2011, post: 593030, member: 57663"] Good discussion point but wow, I'm not sure what rugby you've been watching? Particularly the bit about defense. It is well understood that Barrett's D is an issue. Cruden's D is quite solid for a 10 (not as good as Carter arguably but way better than Barrett). Goal kicking? Mate I wish I had the stats on hand but from observation Cruden's goal kicking is significantly better than Barrett's... Don't get me wrong, Barrett was impressive off the bench v SA, but one game doesn't make him better than the rest. I agree with Icemn - Cruden is superior to Barrett and arguably even better than DC now. Hard to make calls on this based on international rugby alone as none have played that much lately. BUT if you've watched much Super Rugby over the last couple years Cruden has been far superior than the rest. He is the whole package; running, kicking, passing, D... he has it all!! DC is still a very good player, still one of the worlds best when he decides to turn it on. His experience, leadership and understanding of the game must not be underestimated. Barrett is on the improve and I hope to see him more and more in the AB jersey as I believe once DC goes, Barrett will be a fine back-up to Cruden. But for me Cruden is #1 now although in reality is a 50-50 call with the edge to Carter in the selectors eyes due to experience (particularly in the big games). Ask you serlf, if the WC final was tomorrow, and all three were fit, who would start?? Disc: Slight Manawatu bias!! (Cruden might even play ITM cup this week I here ;_ [/QUOTE]
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