cowards.
Insulted gratuitously again...don't some of you question your online behavior ? Would you say these things to me face to face if I simply stated what I felt and asked for the way you felt ?
And yes, since you set me up for it heineken, you're a right idiot. It's just like that, I dunno, bad genes+environmental influences...you just didn't turn out too bright is all...:yawn:
I find a lot of, to say the least, fairly unintelligent replies here but won't go insulting anyone.
Here are my arguments:
we both get the anthem, no question here. But then they get an extra anthem, far more of an advantage psychologically. They get to parade their pompom routine, while we all have to just stand there and be subjected to it. And if we respond, we ACTUALLY GET FINED FOR IT. That would remind me of someone legally being allowed to put his ck in your mouth and if you say anything you get hit in the head and asked to hold still. It's perfectly ridiculous, and I'm pretty *amazed* nobody else agrees - BUT PLEAAAASE !!! Remain calm, this is but a discussion, remember :lol: go hit a punching bag...I'm sure you have one.
So it's a war dance we're talking about here; they're reproducing a war routine where they stare you down with eyes wide open and cutthroat motions going on.
It delays the match, (though it doesn't disrupt the game's rhythm) and you HAVE TO STAND THERE AND WATCH. There's no choice, and the other team doesn't get to do anything (unless it's other Pac Isl...). It's a bit of a pre-Madonna act: reminds me of going to jam with your band, and the lead guitarist just...HAPPENS TO JUST *have this routine*, where he plays solos for 5minutes, and the whole band just stands there.....because that's exactly what it is through one aspect. It is.
So if you're fine with all that, because any of those reasons are sufficient:
it's a 'cultural thing' - it's not 'overwhelmingly reprehensible' - it's been going on forever and can't be banned now - is intense and adds to the folklore of the sport, esp. the mighty AB.
Good for you. Those aren't even close to sufficient for me, but since a vast, vast majority of ppl like the haka, obviously there's no reason to omit it. No problem.
I was just debating the theory behind it, not the applied reality of haka; i.e. how many ppl want it - I know there's a vast majority but that in itself isn't an argument, it's a stat.
I was looking for some intelligent arguments as to why we should keep it, and if it's all that obvious, I should've been inundated with good points, which I just simply haven't.
And please, at least *TRY* to keep it grown up, I understand it's hard for some of the kids on here, but this is a DISCUSSION, i.e. personal attacks just prove how low you are of a person. Attack my arguments, not me.
Insulted gratuitously again...don't some of you question your online behavior ? Would you say these things to me face to face if I simply stated what I felt and asked for the way you felt ?
And yes, since you set me up for it heineken, you're a right idiot. It's just like that, I dunno, bad genes+environmental influences...you just didn't turn out too bright is all...:yawn:
I find a lot of, to say the least, fairly unintelligent replies here but won't go insulting anyone.
Here are my arguments:
we both get the anthem, no question here. But then they get an extra anthem, far more of an advantage psychologically. They get to parade their pompom routine, while we all have to just stand there and be subjected to it. And if we respond, we ACTUALLY GET FINED FOR IT. That would remind me of someone legally being allowed to put his ck in your mouth and if you say anything you get hit in the head and asked to hold still. It's perfectly ridiculous, and I'm pretty *amazed* nobody else agrees - BUT PLEAAAASE !!! Remain calm, this is but a discussion, remember :lol: go hit a punching bag...I'm sure you have one.
So it's a war dance we're talking about here; they're reproducing a war routine where they stare you down with eyes wide open and cutthroat motions going on and UTTER YELLING - and, again, you just HAVE TO take it.
It delays the match, (though it doesn't disrupt the game's rhythm) and you HAVE TO STAND THERE AND WATCH. There's no choice, and the other team doesn't get to do anything (unless it's other Pac Isl...). It's a bit of a pre-Madonna act: reminds me of going to jam with your band, and the lead guitarist just...HAPPENS TO JUST *have this routine*, where he plays solos for 5minutes, and the whole band just stands there.....because that's exactly what it is through one aspect. It is.
So if you're fine with all that, because any of those reasons are sufficient:
it's a 'cultural thing' - it's not 'overwhelmingly reprehensible' - it's been going on forever and can't be banned now - is intense and adds to the folklore of the sport, esp. the mighty AB.
Good for you. Those aren't even close to sufficient for me, but since a vast, vast majority of ppl like the haka, obviously there's no reason to omit it. No problem.
I was just debating the theory behind it, not the applied reality of haka; i.e. how many ppl want it - I know there's a vast majority but that in itself isn't an argument, it's a stat.
I was looking for some intelligent arguments as to why we should keep it, and if it's all that obvious, I should've been inundated with good points, which I just simply haven't.
And please, at least *TRY* to keep it grown up, I understand it's hard for some of the kids on here, but this is a DISCUSSION, i.e. personal attacks just prove how low you are of a person. Attack my arguments, not me.
disagree with the whole thing...pretty much. I only apologize for spelling 'prima donna' wrong.
If we were kindly sitting down and I went like "you know, I just don't think the haka should be allowed" you'd stare at me meanly and go "YOU'RE A MORON !" ?? oh well...it's nice I don't know you. That's hardly a balanced state of mind you'd have there, friend !
Well I wouldn't say this to Maori ppl coz they'd probably hurt me physically, and I don't want that...but I still see it as just that. A pompom routine. Just like you wouldn't tell Manu Tuilagi you think he's an inarticulate, low intelligence character though you do think that, but that's neither here nor there and has nothing to do with the basic respect I'm asking for.
Do I come on an online forum for THIS ? Nope...I'm not 15 anymore.
