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DUBLIN: Super rugby finals might soon be played at neutral venues, going to the southern hemisphere city that is the highest bidder. And a north versus south provincial championship is again on the agenda.

Australian Rugby Union chief executive John O'Neill yesterday said that from 2011, SANZAR wanted to transform the expanded six-team finals series, to be played over a three-week period, into an extravaganza.

The finals series would comprise the best two teams from the Australian, New Zealand and South African conferences.

''We want to turn that into more of a crescendo, like what occurs with the Heineken Cup in the northern hemisphere. We want to make that into an event itself,'' O'Neill said.

That would involve major cities bidding for the final. ''I'd like to think that might not be too far away. It is an exciting concept,'' he said.

O'Neill said the expanded Super competition would revitalise rugby in the southern hemisphere, especially in Australia. ''It might be strange that I am saying this while in Dublin, but Super rugby is the best rugby in the world,'' he said.

''It has the best players in the world. The three countries that supply the players have won all but one World Cup. It's time to understand the genie is out of the bottle and that Super rugby is our shopfront.

''If you want to go head-to-head with AFL, NRL and the A-League, you need a shopfront, and the shopfront will be 22 weeks of Super rugby, followed by the Tri Nations, where the best in the world are playing each other.

''It's the shot in the arm we need. Rugby in Australia and a number of places has probably needed a wake-up call. This competition structure will help, and hopefully we will get a style of rugby conducive to getting our crowds and viewers back.''

O'Neill said he was also interested in the leading Super rugby franchises playing against the best Heineken Cup clubs.

''I don't know whether we can harmonise the seasons. But I think we should look for a window where two or three of the best clubs in the Heineken Cup play off against the two or three best franchises in Super rugby,'' O'Neill said. Wallabies captain and former Leinster player Rocky Elsom said the concept had merit. ''Everyone would be excited about that. It would certainly settle a few arguments,'' he said.
 
Wouldn't this format clash with both the ANZC cup and the Currie Cup?

Also wouldn't how well you do in the tornement become slightly more irrelavent for the final teams, as it comes down to who has the deepest pockets to host the final?

This concept has a few positives, however it would ruin the domestic game in NZ and SA, and it would really only benafit Australia.

I like the inter-hemisphere idea, however it would mean organising a season over domestic competitions, which I think would be a very bad decision. I don't believe that this idea will fly, but that is just my opinion.
 
John O'Neil is a cock and needs a punch in the mouth.

Also, whenever they already do play against each other, NH clubs beat the mickey mouse provinces.

Hell, the NH clubs beat the Tri-Nations Champions...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Nov 18 2009, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
John O'Neil is a cock and needs a punch in the mouth.[/b]

punch_in_the_face.jpg
 
SH vs NH is stupid. I wouldn't mind the S14 final being played at a set ground decided the year before. I'd go to watch the two best SH provinces at suncorp in a S14 final even if Queensland weren't playing.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Nov 18 2009, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Also, whenever they already do play against each other, NH clubs beat the mickey mouse provinces.[/b]
When have they played? I've never heard of any matches :S
(not saying that in a "you're lying" kind of way, btw :p i've just never heard of such matches happening)
 
Haven't all the SH teams that play NH teams lost? I'm just saying because I remember something about the Western Force getting a hiding and now the Springboks are up there losing to Leicester and now the Saracens. Seriously wtf is going on with them it's like they don't really give a s#@! about the tour.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dale @ Nov 19 2009, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
SH vs NH is stupid. I wouldn't mind the S14 final being played at a set ground decided the year before. I'd go to watch the two best SH provinces at suncorp in a S14 final even if Queensland weren't playing.[/b]

Why am I not surprised that JON and a Queenslander both support this idea... :lol:

How about the Waratahs and the Reds earn themselves a home final?

Also, neutral venues can work in the Heineken Cup due to the geographical closeness of all the major cities involved.

The idea that Cape Town could host a Brumbies-Waratahs final, or Auckland hosting the Bulls and the Sharks is just downright retarded.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Nov 19 2009, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
John O'Neil is a cock and needs a punch in the mouth.

Also, whenever they already do play against each other, NH clubs beat the mickey mouse provinces.

Hell, the NH clubs beat the Tri-Nations Champions...[/b]

I agree there Mite. What he said completely undermines the strength of the NH clubs. The top 6 or 7 of those are as dangerous as anything offered down here.
 
I think it'd undermine the SH clubs as well. Think about it, the game would take place at a time when neither NH or SH club could produce a first XV owing to league or international commitments. The resulting game isn't very attractive and thus damages the reputation of the whole enterprise (and anyone who touches it) as being a money spinner.

Danger! Danger!
 
John O'Neill is a C!_!NT, he represents all that I hate about solicitors. Just look at his face, it inspires hatred of the most virulent kind.
 

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