Argentina in the 6 nations ?

[shinji1977]

Fact: argentina deserves to be considered for an international competition
Another fact: most of its players play in europe. BUT: European clubs will not give their players easily... see what happens in football.
As long as the IRB (and FIFA for its sport) doesnt create a world wide calendar, EVERYTHING will be against adopting argentina to any competitions.

 

[An Tarbh]

The clubs can't stop players playing for their country in tournaments recognised by the IRB so that really isn't an issue, the Tri Nations is the only option, a 7 team tournament would be ridiculous.

 

[w3lshrugby]

As I have seen suggested before, perhaps a 6 Nations in the North and a 6 Nations in the South - with the Argies, Samoa & Fiji or Tonga being added into the mix with the Big 3 - although I doubt SANZAR would like to give up their supremacy, so I can't see it happening anytime soon!

 

[Tony S]

7 nations just don’t make sense to us. Since we would like to watch and enjoy the games at the pitch.

For those who suggest the idea of organizing a tournament with Argentina, USA, Uruguay and Canada to develop the game at the Americas.

Its a task of all the tier one teams to develop a worldwide rugby by playing more against Georgia, Uruguay, Portugal, Rumania, Japan, Canada and USA not only from Argentina you elitist egomaniacs.

4 nations would be the better way to develop rugby in Argentina. This will also develop rugby at the Americas by having a tier one team in the continent.

The jet-lag issue is only a mountain of sh..t, since SA is already suffering that problem when they travel to Oceania in comparison with the distances between Aussies and NZ. Buenos Aires is only 7 hours flight from Johannesburg.

 

[Brodizzle]

As I have seen suggested before, perhaps a 6 Nations in the North and a 6 Nations in the South - with the Argies, Samoa & Fiji or Tonga being added into the mix with the Big 3 - although I doubt SANZAR would like to give up their supremacy, so I can't see it happening anytime soon!
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Do you even know the situation down here or are you spouting stuff on what would ideally be the best thing? It's not the same down here as up north where alot of the European countries can beat the other country on a good day..there is the big three and then there is a HUGE amount of daylight..don't think that the Pacific Islands teams performances in the World cup mean they are huge playing nations now, Tonga got smashed by Samoa in world cup qualifiers while a dismal Wallabies smashed Fiji....it is like the Socceroos in the World Cup, played awesome but since then have done **** all....plus the Pacific Islanders can't afford the trip, wasn't there a problem with the Samoans and getting food this world cup? Maybe the home nation dominated IRB should fund the Pacific Islands before they are even thought of being added to a main competition.

PS. They have to dominate the Pacific nations cup as well before we should think of allowing them in...

 

[Rikeka]

it is like the Socceroos in the World Cup[/b]

Sorry, the what?

As for your idea, I`m with it. Argentina should get the other team in the Pacific, and together tell the Tri`s to f*** off when they want a game...

Besides, any tourney outside of the Americas is an upgrade for Argentina.

 

[Rober]

I think the Socceroos is Australia's football team nickname.
As for Argentina joining either the 6 o 3 nations cup I would really love to see that, but I agree that a 7 nations cup might be too much.
What I don't think is relevant at all is the Pumas not being Europeans, after all the tournament started as the Home Nations tournament, which of course meant only British teams where invited. So, the logic of those who say Argentina shouldn't be invited on grounds of not being European would have prevented France & Italy from being invited!
The Pumas joining the Tri-Nations would definitely be great but I think there are some issues with professionalism that need be solved before that could be possible, although I have to admit I'm not sure exactly what those issues are, could someone enlight me on that?

 

[MACISTE]

I'm not aggree whit it.
Argentina is a south nation, but i know it's very difficult for argentina's player (who play in France) to play with three Nation's cup.

 

[Caledfwlch]

Theres a TV deal with FOX running up to 2008 for the 3N. So its unlikely the Argies will join before that

 

[Hobb5y]

I'd love to see Argentina in the 6 Nations i'd also like to see the 6 nations expanded to include portugal, They played well for there first time at a world cup and I think it would only benifit there game to play regular compeition. ofc that brings up the problem of number of games that you would get, imo that could be sorted by having 2 4 pool groups, 1st and 2nd place in the groups goto semi finals and then a final. Yes it does take away a bit of the heritage of the 6 Nations as you wouldn't be able to pull off a Grand Slam but for me including the brilliant rugby that the Argentina's have to offer would be well worth it.

I also think the 6 nations is more logicstical with all the travelling that is already done in the tri nations adding a extra 5000 miles to a few matches probably wouldn't be the best idea for the games. As the majority of Argentinian players play in Europe why not let them base them self in Europe somewhere and have that as a Home base for the duration of the tournament.

 

[zac]

Argentina deserves to participate for an international competition, well in which competition argentina would like to participe ?

 

[jonty4113]

The only difficulty with including Argentina in a possible 7/8 Nations set-up would be the very fact that many of their players are based here in Europe- basing the team here would only serve to drag the best Argentinian players away from their homeland, thus sending the state of Argentinian rugby into decline- something the UAR would not be agreeable to, I imagine. What about an entirely new pan-American plus perhaps Japan tournament, consisting perhaps of Argentina, the USA, Canada and Japan- this should serve to boost the level of international rugby in all these nations. Perhaps a second tier could also be introduced of lesser rugby playing nations in the Americas and East Asia- with a 5-nation tournament, there would be opportunity for promotion to play against the 4 bigger sides mentioned above.

This might give sub-standard opponents for the Argentinians for the moment, but it should lead to more nations being competitive at World Cup standard.

Think I might write to the IRB!

 

[exqo]

I think it's a really great idea to put Argentina in the 6 Nations !

 

[Incredible Schalk]

The reason they havent been in a major tournament is the same reason as it has always been, Argentina is a very isolated country in rugby terms. The best bet would be to have them setup in Spain, but that means they would not bring in sufficient crowds to make it worthwhile. I would love to see the Pumas make it the 7 nations though, they would probably win it.

 

[shinji1977]

Perhaps Argentina could be included in a SH 8 nations (3N + Arg + Tonga + Samoa + Fiji + Japan)
NH Clubs should give their players to the national teams.
3N should help those nations that could not afford travelling accross the globe (yeah, right) to develop world wide rugby...
Oh boy... what a wondeerful world...........
Hope we get to that... ;-)

 

[Prestwick]

And then you wake up!

I think its inevitable that some kind of compromise with the international season calendar will enable Argentina to join an expanded Tri-Nations. Japan meanwhile just aren't ready for anything more than the mini-tournament they're in now and to be fair, playing Australia and New Zealand's development teams is a good way to slowly develop Japanese rugby right now....that and a fully professional system with a league that lasts longer than two months.

 

[exqo]

Yes i think it's a great idea to make a 8 nations tounament !

 

[zac]

These teams Arg + Tonga + Samoa + Fiji + Japan should create a new tournament.

 

[asado]

These teams Arg + Tonga + Samoa + Fiji + Japan should create a new tournament.
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Yes, in five years Tonga and Fiji would be ready to beat France too.

 

[innes]

Create a minnows tournament, and Argentina should be entered in it