A Political Thread pt. 2

[ncurd]

Pound Shop Bob Dylan.

Fifa can create a prize for literature right?

 

[Vaquer]

If he keeps the head shaved and podcast camera above his stomach Joe Rogan could eventually convince somebody he's hard

 

[Welsh Exile]

If he keeps the head shaved and podcast camera above his stomach Joe Rogan could eventually convince somebody he's hard

He could beat up Adam Beard pretty easily. Low benchmark I know but he’s not a pussy

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Pound Shop Bob Dylan.

Pence Dylan

 

[dirty harry]

It’s a load of rubbish. How you can boil down a few hundred thousand years of human history into a stupid quote like that and think it’s profound is beyond me.

You still haven’t defined any of the terms either but I’m not really interested. I know it’s stupid. It’s something a 13 year old would say and think it’s really profound.

How Nihilistic of you...

It doesnt have to define everything, i just thought the right wimg perspective on it was interesting, and i was considering what alternative perspectives on it would be.

 

[dirty harry]

This went about as expected...

The threads quiet, i thought id stir up some conversation and not one person comments on the quote itself, Tate said it, Jo Rogans a pussy, the guy who authered the idea is a quack whos entire catalogue is trash, Jordan Peterson gets brought up hahahaha

So the idea of mans ability to dictate society, and its cyclic nature is nonsensical dri thru philosophy (ill be honest i like that term lol).

Shall i pop it on the discarded pile alongside:

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

Comparison is the thief of joy.

And

Simpliciry is the ultimate sophistication.

Good to know.

 

[Welsh Exile]

This went about as expected...

The threads quiet, i thought id stir up some conversation and not one person comments on the quote itself, Tate said it, Jo Rogans a pussy, the guy who authered the idea is a quack whos entire catalogue is trash, Jordan Peterson gets brought up hahahaha

So the idea of mans ability to dictate society, and its cyclic nature is nonsensical dri thru philosophy (ill be honest i like that term lol).

Shall i pop it on the discarded pile alongside:

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

Comparison is the thief of joy.

And

Simpliciry is the ultimate sophistication.

Good to know.

It’s a stupid quote that isn’t even historically accurate. It’s so simplistic it’s child like. Do you think any historian worth a damn would give any credence to such a thing?

 

[Welsh Exile]

It’s kind of like the misinterpretation of evolution where people say something stupid like “the strong survive the weak die” when in reality it’s about those that adapt best to their environments and surroundings that survive.

 

[dirty harry]

It’s a stupid quote that isn’t even historically accurate. It’s so simplistic it’s child like. Do you think any historian worth a damn would give any credence to such a thing?

All philisophical quotes could be argued against like that, disregarding them for the author, disparaging them, or making the claim serious people wouldnt consider them...

I Find it odd that without hesitation you felt the need to attack it without considering a word of it. Its not as if im subscribed to it as a theory, but others are, and thats interesting is it not?

 

[dirty harry]

It’s kind of like the misinterpretation of evolution where people say something stupid like “the strong survive the weak die” when in reality it’s about those that adapt best to their environments and surroundings that survive.

I think youve misunderstood evolution as a theory, when refered to strong reproductive sucxess, adaptability, survical ability and also genetic advantage are key tenets are they not?

The strong very much would have those core elements no? Meaning they survived and progressed?

Maybe ive read what youve said wrong, im really confused

 

[Welsh Exile]

All philisophical quotes could be argued against like that, disregarding them for the author, disparaging them, or making the claim serious people wouldnt consider them...

I Find it odd that without hesitation you felt the need to attack it without considering a word of it. It’s not as if im subscribed to it as a theory, but others are, and thats interesting is it not?

Attack it without considering a word? Nope. I mean, it’s a short quote. I did read it and found it a laughably simplistic explanation of something extremely complex.

 

[Welsh Exile]

I think youve misunderstood evolution as a theory, when refered to strong reproductive sucxess, adaptability, survical ability and also genetic advantage are key tenets are they not?

The strong very much would have those core elements no? Meaning they survived and progressed?

Maybe ive read what youve said wrong, im really confused

It’s about adaptability. Evolution also isn’t a cycle.

But it’s not an accurate comparison as the quote you posted is making a moral claim.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Losing your rag because no one takes seriously the kind of quote you see laser etched onto whiskey glasses on Temu is objectively hilarious

 

[Welsh Exile]

I’d love to know what board you were discussing this pearl of wisdom on. Michael Hopf is a genius of our time. The modern day Hegel.

 

[dirty harry]

It’s about adaptability. Evolution also isn’t a cycle.

But it’s not an accurate comparison as the quote you posted is making a moral claim.

Who claimed it was a cycle? I think we are getting twisted lol. Im not comparing, i was confused by your interpretation of strong in the context of evolution.

Again, im not fighting on behalf of the quote, but not sure where the moral claim is. There are assumptions, but all philosiphybinvolve somensort of assumption doesnt it.

Im more interested in why it is becoming popularised, seemingly by the right, and then instantly desparaged by those who arent right leaning.

 

[dirty harry]

I’d love to know what board you were discussing this pearl of wisdom on. Michael Hopf is a genius of our time. The modern day Hegel.

I get enough abuse on this board, i wouldnt direct some of the more vitriolic people here to other websites I use! Not that i dont get **** on there too, its very similar in nature.

 

[dirty harry]

I’d love to know what board you were discussing this pearl of wisdom on. Michael Hopf is a genius of our time. The modern day Hegel.

I know nothing on Hopf, outside of knowing this is assigned to him, and i believe he was ex marine. I assume his writing would reflect that, and the quote would make sense if true.

I also know its been taken pretty literally in right wing circles, especially the term 'men', whether that is the original intent or not.

Its an interesting idea.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Who claimed it was a cycle?

You did when you said

“Its a quote about the cyclic nature of siciety,”

 

[Welsh Exile]

Who claimed it was a cycle? I think we are getting twisted lol. Im not comparing, i was confused by your interpretation of strong in the context of evolution.

Again, im not fighting on behalf of the quote, but not sure where the moral claim is. There are assumptions, but all philosiphybinvolve somensort of assumption doesnt it.

Im more interested in why it is becoming popularised, seemingly by the right, and then instantly desparaged by those who arent right leaning.

The moral claim is “strong men” “weak men” this is why I asked you to define terms.

 

[dirty harry]

The moral claim is “strong men” “weak men” this is why I asked you to define terms.

Oh, your upset by the gendered language?

Apologies, ill happily replace strong men with strong people, i think youve taken it way too literal tbh, or maybe you havnt and im being generous in my interpretation.

Strength is pretty universal no? Resilience, ingenuity, empathy, courage, discipline, collaberation etc...

Weakness - complacency, cowardess, lack of integrity, impulsiveness etc...

Edit: its interesting that the reasons you dont like it, its literal nature, is why the right seemingly do like it.