A Political Thread pt. 2

[ncurd]

What are the British press finally hounding Farage for what has been known for years?

 

[Which Tyler]

What are the British press finally hounding Farage for what has been known for years?

He's always had the veil of deniability by staying just the right side of accusations - the current batch don't have any veil on them at all though.
So he's following the Trumpian playbook of denial => play down => everyone does it etc

The dog whistle has become an alarm whistle

Whether it moves the voters remains to be seen

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

The veil was very thin to begin with but now it's pretty much transparent. There is also a world of difference between comedy that has since been deemed unacceptable and saying Hitler was right to gas the Jews to a Jew, which has never been right in any context.

 

[dirty harry]

He's always had the veil of deniability by staying just the right side of accusations - the current batch don't have any veil on them at all though.
So he's following the Trumpian playbook of denial => play down => everyone does it etc

The dog whistle has become an alarm whistle

Whether it moves the voters remains to be seen

It wont move the needle at all lets be honest!

 

[Welsh Exile]

It wont move the needle at all lets be honest!

Because everyone keeps calling Fararge racist and that makes people mad. When will the left learn, amirite?

 

[Saintjay]

It wont move the needle at all lets be honest!

Can't see reform voters jumping ship to Labour, Libs or greens. That leaves the Conservatives who are picking up slightly in the poles.

I can see Labour voters turning to the Libs, greens, PC and SNP.

How this reflects years later at a GE who knows. The locals could be interesting.

 

[dirty harry]

Can't see reform voters jumping ship to Labour, Libs or greens. That leaves the Conservatives who are picking up slightly in the poles.

I can see Labour voters turning to the Libs, greens, PC and SNP.

How this reflects years later at a GE who knows. The locals could be interesting.

I think the hardcore Reform base doesnt go anywhere, allegations of Farage being racist at 13 coming out 50 years later arent swinging any neutrals leaning reform, there may be some Tories who wanted to punish them return....

Labour voters have a decision, either their vote is split amongst lib dems, green, PC and SNP, or they collude against Reform and strategically pull out of certain regions to ensure a non Reform winner, as we have seen recently.

I think a coalition is likely, but depending on how spineless leaders are..

 

[Vaquer]

What are the British press finally hounding Farage for what has been known for years?

Is someone whose been in far right politics for decades racist? Gee I just don't know

 

[dirty harry]

'Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times'

 

[Welsh Exile]

'Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times'

What do “hard times” “strong men” “good times” and “weak men” mean?

 

[dirty harry]

What do “hard times” “strong men” “good times” and “weak men” mean?

Its a quote about the cyclic nature of siciety, tough times create resiliance, those resilient people help society progress, the comfort of siciety breads co.placency and entitlement, which in turn leads to crisis.

DIscussing this on another board, the consensus was that we are heading into hard times, because of a soft overly liberal generation of fathers, accepting of anti british values creeping into society, namely LGBTQ and Islam. I made the case that Islam isnt the threat its made out to be, its demographic spike will halt, freedom, and especially when economic factors turn around, corrupts, and religion will more harshly cling on as droves leave it, and well the LGBTQ movement will remain loud as its politically convenient, butnin reality is a tiny non issue.

Most seemed to see civil unrest on the horizon...

 

[Welsh Exile]

Its a quote about the cyclic nature of siciety, tough times create resiliance, those resilient people help society progress, the comfort of siciety breads co.placency and entitlement, which in turn leads to crisis.

DIscussing this on another board, the consensus was that we are heading into hard times, because of a soft overly liberal generation of fathers, accepting of anti british values creeping into society, namely LGBTQ and Islam. I made the case that Islam isnt the threat its made out to be, its demographic spike will halt, freedom, and especially when economic factors turn around, corrupts, and religion will more harshly cling on as droves leave it, and well the LGBTQ movement will remain loud as its politically convenient, butnin reality is a tiny non issue.

Most seemed to see civil unrest on the horizon...

It’s a load of rubbish. How you can boil down a few hundred thousand years of human history into a stupid quote like that and think it’s profound is beyond me.

You still haven’t defined any of the terms either but I’m not really interested. I know it’s stupid. It’s something a 13 year old would say and think it’s really profound.

 

[ncurd]

It’s a load of rubbish. How you can boil down a few hundred thousand years of human history into a stupid quote like that and think it’s profound is beyond me.

You still haven’t defined any of the terms either but I’m not really interested. I know it’s stupid. It’s something a 13 year old would say and think it’s really profound.

Its drive-thru Philosophy

 

[Welsh Exile]

Its drive-thru Philosophy

I think even that’s generous.

 

[Welsh Exile]

I’ve only come across the quote once (or maybe twice) and I’m pretty sure I saw Andrew Tate banging on about it which tells you all you need to know.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I've only ever seen it used in comedy shows etc., i find it hard to believe anyone (other than Joe Rogan) is stupid enough to actually think that way

 

[ncurd]

I think even that’s generous.

Well Tate give you some idea but its exactly the crap people like Peterson peddle. Its bite-size small and easy to digest but if you actually scrutinise its uttter ********.

Hey like always theres a West Wing clip for it (its that or Yes, Minster or The Thick of It)

 

[Which Tyler]

Its drive-thru Philosophy

You mean, a philosophy so full of holes you could drive a whole fleet of bendy buses through it?

 

[Welsh Exile]

Well Tate give you some idea but its exactly the crap people like Peterson peddle. Its bite-size small and easy to digest but if you actually scrutinise its uttter ********.

Hey like always theres a West Wing clip for it (its that or Yes, Minster or The Thick of It)

lol, after looking at where this quote comes from you can’t even say this is something said by a philosopher (like Kant in that clip) but is taken out of context. It was said by some author who writes about post apocalyptic societies or something. He’s written over 40 books apparently (I’m sure they’ll all trash)

 

[Saintjay]

Pound Shop Bob Dylan.