A Political Thread pt. 2

[ncurd]

Isn't it Gordon Brown who's widely accredited as the person who led how to solve the global financial crisis of 2007 cause by Americans?

 

[McTallshort]

I would spend less time worrying about us and start focusing on you. By nearly every relevant measure, you guys are in a bad spot. And trust me, America is not coming to save you again. Those days are long past.

So you handle you, and we will handle ours. You know, stones and glass houses.

https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/articles/uk-economic-growth-may-lag-expectations-in-2025

UK economy shrinks in January with GDP down 0.1%

Surprise fall in GDP was driven by a slowdown in manufacturing and construction

www.thetimes.com

When did America "save" us last time?

 

[ncurd]

When did America "save" us last time?

1941 but they absolutely love to dine out on it. Even reasonable Americans like to josh you about it at times. I've seen similar attitudes from British visiting Europe.

 

[McTallshort]

1941 but they absolutely love to dine out on it. Even reasonable Americans like to josh you about it at times. I've seen similar attitudes from British visiting Europe.

So a once in a millennium event?

 

[McTallshort]

South African ambassador 'no longer welcome' in US, Rubio says

The US Secretary of State called the ambassador a "race-baiting politician who hates America".

www.bbc.co.uk

Now...do you think this might have anything to do with the bloke who owns Twitter?

 

[ncurd]

So a once in a millennium event?

Their country isn't old enought for that.

 

[Which Tyler]

Their country isn't old enought for that.

Actual Americans might disagree with that.
People like CK and the orange buffoon are descendants of illegal immigrants who refused to integrate, refused to learn the language, and for the most part, were a bunch of untrustworthy murderous bastards (all in all, much like the English then)

 

[Welsh Exile]

1941 but they absolutely love to dine out on it. Even reasonable Americans like to josh you about it at times. I've seen similar attitudes from British visiting Europe.

Only because they were attacked. In fact their isolationism back then isn't too different to now. Wrong side of history siding with Putin that's for sure.

 

[ncurd]

I had a thought my in-laws are racist homophobes who need to be reminded who Reform are to stop them voting for them. You know the classic "I'm not a racist but" say something very racist.

Yes they hate Trump and see right through him.

I wonder why they can see it when it nit closer to home through political parties or thier actions.

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

Housing prices won't be coming down. I don't know who told you that. Outside of super heated markets like coastal Florida, they will continue to rise.

History? Housing market and stock market follow each other. Not always in magnitude but in direction.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

The BBC, Guardian, ITV, Daily Mail, Economist are worthless. I saw this guy James O'Brien linked. If you are consuming this man's content, you are actively getting dumber about America.

Start reading the FT, stop listening to O'Brien.

What you don't get is the FT is behind a paid wall. Great if you can afford to pay for it and work in finance. More and more media are via subscription only. Hence why mainstream media like BBC and Guardian can be read and linked to here, including good investigative journalism which gives an idea of what is going on in America. Remember you are only one of 340m Americans who are giving their viewpoint of their lives. There was 50% of American electorate who did not vote for Trump or didn't even turn up to vote they are so disenfranchised with US politics.

O'Brien is on LBC radio but at least he makes sense in his arguments. He's not like the hacks that appear in America to sell their right wing BS.

 

[ChicagoKid]

What you don't get is the FT is behind a paid wall. Great if you can afford to pay for it and work in finance. More and more media are via subscription only. Hence why mainstream media like BBC and Guardian can be read and linked to here, including good investigative journalism which gives an idea of what is going on in America. Remember you are only one of 340m Americans who are giving their viewpoint of their lives. There was 50% of American electorate who did not vote for Trump or didn't even turn up to vote they are so disenfranchised with US politics.

O'Brien is on LBC radio but at least he makes sense in his arguments. He's not like the hacks that appear in America to sell their right wing BS.

That was a lot of words to say "I'm too broke to afford accurate reporting."

As we say here, You get what you pay for.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

That was a lot of words to say "I'm too broke to afford accurate reporting."

As we say here, You get what you pay for.

You pay £40 per month for reporting?

 

[ChicagoKid]

You pay £40 per month for reporting?

I pay significantly more. FT, WSJ, Substack, Patreon and subscribe to Spotify for some podcasts.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

I pay significantly more. FT, WSJ, Substack, Patreon and subscribe to Spotify for some podcasts.

Given that, what's your excuse for being so woefully informed about what Trump has done and is doing?

 

[Bada-Bing!]

That was a lot of words to say "I'm too broke to afford accurate reporting."

As we say here, You get what you pay for.

what like News Max and Fox News? Yeh great news! You have a POTUS who bases his policy decisions on what he sees because he's too lazy to ready the reports put in front of him. He lives in a world of disinformation just like most Americans.

It's not about being too broke to pay for such reporting. Its whether peeps are willing to pay for it. Yes, news is beginning to cost and more and more it is a commodity to sell to their particular audience. Of course peeps are going to go to news sources which they are not going to pay for. Why do you think there are peeps, here and in USA get their news from Facebook and stay in their echo chambers.

 

[ChicagoKid]

Given that, what's your excuse for being so woefully informed about what Trump has done and is doing?

Again, you get what you pay for.

Curious, who here has visited the US?

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Again, you get what you pay for.

Curious, who here has visited the US?

So you're saying you're paying to be misinformed and ignorant...?

There are 2 options, you either don't know the extent of Trump's criminal behaviour or you don't care.

Yes I've been to the USA. I was there last year. New York and Boston.

 

[ChicagoKid]

So you're saying you're paying to be misinformed and ignorant...?

There are 2 options, you either don't know the extent of Trump's criminal behaviour or you don't care.

Yes I've been to the USA. I was there last year. New York and Boston.

If you believe the Manhattan sham trials, then good luck to you.

There's a reason 1.) his popularity with independents rose after the convictions and 2.) No New Yorker in the history of the city had ever been tried as a felon for the alleged crime.

It was a kangaroo court and thank God a majority of Americans saw right through it.

Now, unfortunately, I can't say the same about your little island. You convict people of crimes for social media posts.

Every single day I wake up grateful to live in a country with free speech and expression.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

If you believe the Manhattan sham trials, then good luck to you.

There's a reason 1.) his popularity with independents rose after the convictions and 2.) No New Yorker in the history of the city had ever been tried as a felon for the alleged crime.

It was a kangaroo court and thank God a majority of Americans saw right through it.

Now, unfortunately, I can't say the same about your little island. You convict people of crimes for social media posts.

Every single day I wake up grateful to live in a country with free speech and expression.

The fact you call them "sham trials" is telling, but no, it goes way beyond that. You are aware his organisations have been fine for criminal behaviour before right? You are aware he can't hear up a charity want me because of past fraud right? This all predates him being president. With your fantastic shifts of knowledge, you should know this.

No what I was really getting at was stuff like the top secret files he stole and tried to prevent the government getting back. You should be ashamed at the reason given for that case being dropped, that special prosecutors are not constitutional. They are, it's been established multiple times and it wasn't for cannon to overrule the supreme court in that issue.

You are deluded if you think your level of free speech and expression is that much greater.