A Political Thread pt. 2

[Welsh Exile]

Significantly cheaper too. You can buy a nice home in Chicago for $1.5 to $2 million in a great area with good schools and parks.

In New York it would 3x or 4x that. When I was last in London before COVID it sounded like both cities shared the same problem.

House prices are crazy in the south east of England in general. But yeah, London is a madness

 

[dirty harry]

Yeah, Chicago and NYC are the 2 I know and while New York is great, if I had to chose over which city to live in, I'd pick Chicago.

I couldn't stay in Manhatten, I went out to Secaucus for 6 months to find some normality.

I fly in to NY Sunday, I can't wait to chat with locals about Trump.

 

[dirty harry]

House prices are crazy in the south east of England in general. But yeah, London is a madness

Me living in my 60k mansion in the valleys lol

 

[Welsh Exile]

Me living in my 60k mansion in the valleys lol

I remember my grandads house in Sandfields Aberavon going for £21k. Was a nice house too.

 

[dirty harry]

I remember my grandads house in Sandfields Aberavon going for £21k. Was a nice house too.

Tbf I bought mine in 2005, it's worth a bit more now, maybe x3. I also moved out a while ago...

A friend of mine just picked up a 75k bachelor pad though, nice little 3 bed. The valleys is where it's at!

 

[McTallshort]

This is interesting, Zelensky wasn't happy with Trump speaking with Putin without including him, and hours after the 30 day agreement Russia are accusing Ukraine of striking oil facilities in a deliberate provocation.

I mean, if Putin agreed to 30 days of not targeting infrastructure, what's the motivation for stinking straight after? Putin never seemed to be a coward, and would cow tow via T/C before just doing what he wants. Zelensky is the only beneficiary of Russia striking and breaking that agreement after all.

I don't know what the truth is, as do any of us but something is fishy, whether it's Russia playing games or Ukraine provoking them

The motivation is Putin doesn't want peace his economy and regime rest on the continuation of this war for the time being at least and it doesn't matter how much America shout and say they want a deal the Russians don't care.

 

[dirty harry]

The motivation is Putin doesn't want peace his economy and regime rest on the continuation of this war for the time being at least and it doesn't matter how much America shout and say they want a deal the Russians don't care.

Then why agree to a 30 day reprieve?

 

[McTallshort]

Then why agree to a 30 day reprieve?

Because they are playing the Americans for idiots and the war is very much still going on

 

[dirty harry]

Because they are playing the Americans for idiots and the war is very much still going on

But that doesn't make sense, that seems like what you want to be true.

If Putin wanted to play the USA, he'd have ignored the call for talks, rejected Trump outright, like he did with a ceasefire.

I just find this situation fishy.

 

[Saintjay]

Then why agree to a 30 day reprieve?

Because it doesn't matter. What will the Americans do if Russia ignores them. Russia can ride it out till the US pulls the plug on Ukraine and potentialy forces them to conceded.

 

[ChicagoKid]

Tbf I bought mine in 2005, it's worth a bit more now, maybe x3. I also moved out a while ago...

A friend of mine just picked up a 75k bachelor pad though, nice little 3 bed. The valleys is where it's at!

What's the current government's plan to grow the UK? Because from everything I've read the data I've seen is London and SE England are hoovering all the $/talent. Outside of Manchester, it appears like the rest of the UK is slowly dying, which seems strange with your high immigration levels.

 

[McTallshort]

But that doesn't make sense, that seems like what you want to be true.

If Putin wanted to play the USA, he'd have ignored the call for talks, rejected Trump outright, like he did with a ceasefire.

I just find this situation fishy.

How does it not make sense?

 

[dirty harry]

Because it doesn't matter. What will the Americans do if Russia ignores them. Russia can ride it out till the US pulls the plug on Ukraine and potentialy forces them to conceded.

But this doesn't address the outcomes of agreeing to 30 days... why would Putin agree to then 180?

If your right, and Putin wants US frustration just to force Ukraine to give away the game, why not refuse to engage with talks, engage with talks but refuse any reprieve until Ukraine concede some, or agree to 30 days and follow through on the 30 days. All of those options get them closer to where they want to go.

 

[dirty harry]

How does it not make sense?

Because this doesn't make the Americans look like idiots, it makes Trump look like the good guy, attempting to talk peace with a maniac.

My only other theory is, after the Netenyahu break, Trump has negotiated these actions in, and has agreed these repreives but told both to continue as they wish, for the optics.

 

[Weldit]

What's the current government's plan to grow the UK? Because from everything I've read the data I've seen is London and SE England are hoovering all the $/talent. Outside of Manchester, it appears like the rest of the UK is slowly dying, which seems strange with your high immigration levels.

They don't care about the rest of the UK. The way they think is simple: London gets the money and the further away you are, the less noticed you are. Not a bad thing in some aspects. London is a dump of their own creation.

 

[McTallshort]

But this doesn't address the outcomes of agreeing to 30 days... why would Putin agree to then 180?

If your right, and Putin wants US frustration just to force Ukraine to give away the game, why not refuse to engage with talks, engage with talks but refuse any reprieve until Ukraine concede some, or agree to 30 days and follow through on the 30 days. All of those options get them closer to where they want to go.

If he refuses talks then his bot farm can't pump out "look we tried but that Nazi Zelensky wouldn't have it"

Its state craft which the Russians are pretty good at but this current American administration isn't doing very well at.

 

[General Melchett]

Isn't Putin of the view that Ukraine shouldn't even exist? That was my understanding.

In his mind he's trying to fix the mess Gorbachev created.

 

[ChicagoKid]

They don't care about the rest of the UK. The way they think is simple: London gets the money and the further away you are, the less noticed you are. Not a bad thing in some aspects. London is a dump of their own creation.

Besides "It's the Tories fault", is there a good explanation for the current state of the UK? They simply don't care as you said?

I'm not trying to be ignorant or rude or a loud mouthed America , but the current state of Wales and many former industrial parts around the UK seem economically dire.

 

[McTallshort]

Because this doesn't make the Americans look like idiots, it makes Trump look like the good guy, attempting to talk peace with a maniac.

My only other theory is, after the Netenyahu break, Trump has negotiated these actions in, and has agreed these repreives but told both to continue as they wish, for the optics.

No it doesn't. It looks like Trumps begging for a truce and Putin can take or leave it because he's the powerful leader showing up the west. It shows him as strong, intelligent and powerful. He's literally playing the world's most powerful country. That's big for Russians

 

[ChicagoKid]

Maybe it will raise my status here, but I truly never liked David Cameron. Guy reeked of holier than thou character.

I liked Blair. Not even the war stuff and being Bush' lapdog. He was extremely charismatic.

Rishi appeared to be the best the Tories have had in several decades but faced extreme headwinds.