A Political Thread pt. 2

[AlRums]

British Steel: Government aims to take control with emergency law

Parliament will be recalled for a rare Saturday sitting in a bid to save the company's owner from closing the site.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[General Melchett]

British Steel: Government aims to take control with emergency law

Parliament will be recalled for a rare Saturday sitting in a bid to save the company's owner from closing the site.

www.bbc.co.uk

One of those situations where inaction will just attract a world of criticism.

 

[dirty harry]

British Steel: Government aims to take control with emergency law

Parliament will be recalled for a rare Saturday sitting in a bid to save the company's owner from closing the site.

www.bbc.co.uk

Wonder who's gonna be sent to the wolves to pay for this? Child benefit, sure start grants, or just straight up Universal credit cuts

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

I quite liked Berwick.

I think his stint as England manager has been a bit hit and miss though

 

[Reiser99]

Can we accept that the era of privatisation and selling off of national assets has failed. Why does a Chinese company own British steel and is then able to just walk away and let the tax payer shoulder the burden.

Yes Britain got an influx of wealth from selling off assets, but it was a short term boost that was always going to come back and bit us in the arse. Instead of investing that wealth properly, it's been completely mismanaged and now the country is worse off than ever. Just look at how Norway didn't sell off all the rights to it's oil fields and now it has a fund that benefits everyone. Tuition fees are another example. Put the cost up, but keep the loans ignoring the fact that many people will never pay back the full amount of even close to it, leaving future governments out of pocket.

Britain really needs to take a step back and make tough decisions that will lead to a better future, because all this dicking about in the present and tinkering with **** will get us no where.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Can we accept that the era of privatisation and selling off of national assets has failed. Why does a Chinese company own British steel and is then able to just walk away and let the tax payer shoulder the burden.

Yes Britain got an influx of wealth from selling off assets, but it was a short term boost that was always going to come back and bit us in the arse. Instead of investing that wealth properly, it's been completely mismanaged and now the country is worse off than ever. Just look at how Norway didn't sell off all the rights to it's oil fields and now it has a fund that benefits everyone. Tuition fees are another example. Put the cost up, but keep the loans ignoring the fact that many people will never pay back the full amount of even close to it, leaving future governments out of pocket.

Britain really needs to take a step back and make tough decisions that will lead to a better future, because all this dicking about in the present and tinkering with **** will get us no where.

This country has been run on short term thinking for too long. It is one of the failures of our particular brand of democracy, what's the point of committing to playing for something that might take 20 years to beat fruit when you might lose the next election and have the next party simply scrap it?

It's one advantage of a federal system like the USA in that, as long as the federal government isn't overbearing, in theory state governments can maintain so long term consistency. In practice it's another matter.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

 

[ChicagoKid]

Can we accept that the era of privatisation and selling off of national assets has failed. Why does a Chinese company own British steel and is then able to just walk away and let the tax payer shoulder the burden.

Yes Britain got an influx of wealth from selling off assets, but it was a short term boost that was always going to come back and bit us in the arse. Instead of investing that wealth properly, it's been completely mismanaged and now the country is worse off than ever. Just look at how Norway didn't sell off all the rights to it's oil fields and now it has a fund that benefits everyone. Tuition fees are another example. Put the cost up, but keep the loans ignoring the fact that many people will never pay back the full amount of even close to it, leaving future governments out of pocket.

Britain really needs to take a step back and make tough decisions that will lead to a better future, because all this dicking about in the present and tinkering with **** will get us no where.

This feels like the wrong lesson to learn about your multi-decade stagnation.

You stopped building. You make it onerous to construct anything new.

Why can't Britain build another million homes? Texas is building somewhere around 200-300k homes per annum.

You have land. You have builders. Your limiting factor is not skill, money, or time.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Your limiting factor is not skill, money, or time.

No, it's builders and materials
We could be building more than we are but we can't build as much as we need

 

[ChicagoKid]

No, it's builders and materials
We could be building more than we are but we can't build as much as we need

You don't have materials? Really? Theres no wood? Nails? Carpet? Stone?

You've imported a 1 million plus Poles. That's all those people do is build stuff.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

You don't have materials? Really? Theres no wood? Nails? Carpet? Stone?

You've imported a 1 million plus Poles. That's all those people do is build stuff.

UK 'doesn't have enough builders' for Labour's 1.5m homes

Builders and developers say reforms are needed to recruit more tradespeople to build the homes being promised.

www.bbc.co.uk

UK Building Materials Shortage: Impact on Construction

Explore the UK building materials shortage and its significant impact on construction. Stay informed about the strategies to navigate this crisis.

www.uniccm.com

 

[ChicagoKid]

UK 'doesn't have enough builders' for Labour's 1.5m homes

Builders and developers say reforms are needed to recruit more tradespeople to build the homes being promised.

www.bbc.co.uk

UK Building Materials Shortage: Impact on Construction

Explore the UK building materials shortage and its significant impact on construction. Stay informed about the strategies to navigate this crisis.

www.uniccm.com

I literally heard the exact same thing for 10 years in the US. Then demand surged, home builders raised wages, and all of a sudden there were a ton of builders.

What you mean to say is: There are not enough builders for the wages being offered.

Look what happens when laborers start making $2,000 a week.

New Privately-Owned Housing Units Started: Total Units

View data of the total number of new privately owned homes that began construction in a given month, used as an indicator of economic strength.

fred.stlouisfed.org

 

[ChicagoKid]

UK 'doesn't have enough builders' for Labour's 1.5m homes

Builders and developers say reforms are needed to recruit more tradespeople to build the homes being promised.

www.bbc.co.uk

UK Building Materials Shortage: Impact on Construction

Explore the UK building materials shortage and its significant impact on construction. Stay informed about the strategies to navigate this crisis.

www.uniccm.com

I've also heard you don't have enough doctors. Our doctors make 3-10x more than NHS doctors. I'm sure if you raised wages so your average doctor made 300,000£ a year, you would have plenty of doctors.

 

[McTallshort]

You don't have materials? Really? Theres no wood? Nails? Carpet? Stone?

You've imported a 1 million plus Poles. That's all those people do is build stuff.

Glad all these Poles were builders

 

[ChicagoKid]

Glad all these Poles were builders

The entire Chicago building trade is Poles and other Eastern Europeans.

I know it's extremely similar in London.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I literally heard the exact same thing for 10 years in the US. Then demand surged, home builders raised wages, and all of a sudden there were a ton of builders.

What you mean to say is: There are not enough builders for the wages being offered.

Look what happens when laborers start making $2,000 a week.

New Privately-Owned Housing Units Started: Total Units

View data of the total number of new privately owned homes that began construction in a given month, used as an indicator of economic strength.

fred.stlouisfed.org

Ok?

Doesn't change the fact that there aren't enough builders or materials at the moment

Won't find many people saying wage suppression isn't an issue so I'm not really sure why you're trying to pick a fight

 

[ChicagoKid]

Ok?

Doesn't change the fact that there aren't enough builders or materials at the moment

Won't find many people saying wage suppression isn't an issue so I'm not really sure why you're trying to pick a fight

I've had my coffee. Lets argue.

 

[McTallshort]

Ok?

Doesn't change the fact that there aren't enough builders or materials at the moment

Won't find many people saying wage suppression isn't an issue so I'm not really sure why you're trying to pick a fight

My eldest is an apprentice builder. He's earning ok for an apprentice. I don't remember a builder ever moaning that they were impoverished.

 

[McTallshort]

I've had my coffee. Lets argue.

What was the tariff on that?

 

[ChicagoKid]

What was the tariff on that?

I grow my own beans.