7 week ban for Davies

[Stoney21]

anyone think that Bradley should have been banned for longer, considering richie rees got 12 weeks for making contact with Northampton hooker Dylan Hartley's eye with out much evidance?

 

[ThatFellowEdwards]

I think if he'd have spear-tackled him into the floor, he would have had a lot longer. As it was he flipped him over and let him go. 7 weeks isn't enough though, it was off the ball and highly irresponsible.

It might be a controversial viewpoint, but I think anything less than a years ban for an eye-gouge is a total cop out. You only need to look at what happened to Gavin Quinnell. If I had my way they'd never play top-flight rugby again, if the evidence was overwhelming that is.

 

[lynam1104]

Should be longer. IMO if they really wanted to get rid of spear tackles they would do what they did with gouging and give bans of over 1 year. Wasn't there a french prop who got two years? can't remember, anyway since 09-10 we've seen a huge decline in eye gouging.

 

[Luimneach18]

if ferris gets any sort of ban i will actually laugh.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Seems about right to me. Ferris has been cleared, as well.

Can't compare gouging and spear tackling, completely different offences.

 

[SelimNiai]

No complaints here, you'd have to be a bit of a div to suggest its a harsh ban

 

[no-1-rugby-fan]

It was an off the ball tackle. No one can argue with the ban.

 

[Peat]

Should be longer. IMO if they really wanted to get rid of spear tackles they would do what they did with gouging and give bans of over 1 year. Wasn't there a french prop who got two years? can't remember, anyway since 09-10 we've seen a huge decline in eye gouging.

Longest ban recently was Attoub - 26 weeks, and he wouldn't have got that if he hadn't tried to claim that the photos were doctored...

Seems about right to me. Ferris has been cleared, as well.

Can't compare gouging and spear tackling, completely different offences.

I'd argue that the spear tackle's more dangerous. I'd certainly like to see spear tackles like that judged as harshly as eye gouging (separating spear from tip here) and am disappointed he hasn't received a lot long.

 

[Robert Prosser]

I personally thinks it a fair decision and a fair ban for the reason s given by the disciplinary board.

 

[big ginger 8]

Think he should have got 10-12 weeks. Gouging can cause blindness in the eye affected which is quite obviously horrible but a spear tackle can make someone a paraplegic.

 

[Feicarsinn]

Is he back for the Heino quarter finals? I think he is. If so, I hope Sean O'Brien man shames him at some point.

 

[DuncTheDoodle]

I'd say it's about right- Misses the Six Nations, but doesn't affect the Blues campaign. You've got to take this as one incident and it was going to be 9, but was reduced due to his good record/guilty plea.

 

[Feicarsinn]

Very harsh. I don't even think it should have warranted a ban. The whole point of a ban would make him admit it was wrong. I believe Bradley knows it was wrong, but has too much pride. All this talk about setting examples, but anyone who plays rugby and believes you could do this shouldn't be playing it's commonsense.

Ferrid deserves a ban then if this is the case, because he did the same, but if Ian Evans didn't put his arm out it would have looked the same.

Look im not condoning it, but i don't believe he should be banned. A simple sorry, shake heads and conference for everyone to listen to stating how he was wrong and should and will never do it again. This is a bit more pragmatic than shifting a ban.

Donnacha was asking for it anyway, as he was not entirely innocent.

So if a criminal were to admit that he was guilty he shouldn't go to prison? He broke the rules and therefore should be punished. To suggest otherwise is not only silly, but counter productive. If the IRB don't clamp down on things like this it equates to saying 'Oh, well if you're sorry it's fine. Dangerous play is grand in our books.'

Nonsense.

 

[lucky number 7]

Very harsh. I don't even think it should have warranted a ban. The whole point of a ban would make him admit it was wrong. I believe Bradley knows it was wrong, but has too much pride. All this talk about setting examples, but anyone who plays rugby and believes you could do this shouldn't be playing it's commonsense.

Ferrid deserves a ban then if this is the case, because he did the same, but if Ian Evans didn't put his arm out it would have looked the same.

Look im not condoning it, but i don't believe he should be banned. A simple sorry, shake heads and conference for everyone to listen to stating how he was wrong and should and will never do it again. This is a bit more pragmatic than shifting a ban.

Donnacha was asking for it anyway, as he was not entirely innocent.

Also, hey citing people, what about the Irish scrums halfs knee dive into Jon Davies, after he scored the try? The Irish got away with murder in that game, with diliberate knock ons, tackles in the air (1st or 2nd minute on Mike Phillips) But nah, lets just screw the Welsh aye.

You must be a troll...this is pure bullshit.

 

[Darwin]

So if a criminal were to admit that he was guilty he shouldn't go to prison? He broke the rules and therefore should be punished. To suggest otherwise is not only silly, but counter productive. If the IRB don't clamp down on things like this it equates to saying 'Oh, well if you're sorry it's fine. Dangerous play is grand in our books.'

Nonsense.

Not if they are Welsh (and the Irish victim was 'asking for it')

 

[lucky number 7]

Notice how Ferris's citing was for a tackle...a little harsh in most peoples opinions.. as Smartcooky the resident ref concurred with.

Notice how Bradley picked up a player nowhere near the ball and threw him down....any slight differences there?

 

[Feicarsinn]

Look dude as I stated i am not condoning what he did. It was very bad. However, you're pumped up in the hype of the game, adrenaline is going to take over, and make you do stupid actions. I know Bradley from both a Wales and Blues fan, and he is not a bad dirty kid.

I see you cut out all of the Irishs alleged offences then?

So manslaughter is okay? Heat of the moment and all that?

Oh, and you can go back through the thread if you want and have a look at what I said about the Ferris incident if you want. I never said it was anything less than a penalty and probably a yellow card. But was as severe as the Davies off the ball tip? Not nearly.

Regarding the Warburton tackle, he's even admitted himself that it was probably a red card. My advice would be to get over it.

 

[Saintjay]

Very harsh. I don't even think it should have warranted a ban. The whole point of a ban would make him admit it was wrong. I believe Bradley knows it was wrong, but has too much pride. All this talk about setting examples, but anyone who plays rugby and believes you could do this shouldn't be playing it's commonsense.

Ferris deserves a ban then if this is the case, because he did the same, but if Ian Evans didn't put his arm out it would have looked the same. You have to think though, will they let him off because Ireland lost?

Look im not condoning it, but i don't believe he should be banned. A simple sorry, shake heads and conference for everyone to listen to stating how he was wrong and should and will never do it again. This is a bit more pragmatic than shifting a ban.

Donnacha was asking for it anyway, as he was not entirely innocent.



Also, hey citing people, what about the Irish scrums halfs knee dive into Jon Davies, after he scored the try? The Irish got away with murder in that game, with diliberate knock ons, tackles in the air (1st or 2nd minute on Mike Phillips) But nah, lets just screw the Welsh aye.

Oh dear the Sepp Blatter handshake and it wll go away.

I might not be Judge John Deed but in most courts and early admission of guilt get's you a lighter sentence which is what he got. As for asking for it that's not a defence to any thing at all.

As for the Warburton tackle he said him-self it was bad and he dropped the bloke. Ferris had some degree of control. Gatland has said he may start fines if players can't control tackles and keep making stupid tackles. Even he sees it as it is only the players who are to blame.

 

[lucky number 7]

It was a red card. Have a look at the rule book.

I sense a sore bum.

 

[Feicarsinn]

Of course not mate.

Warburton was only admitting to it, to keep the Welsh World cup reputation of being good boys who never argue with the ref. He knew like everyone across the world, bar Allan French Rolland that it was only a yellow. Vincent Clerce milked that. For God's sake, it's rugby not football.

You know what? I'm not even going to bother. Maybe Smartcookie will come across this thread and absolutely own you on tip tackles and the like. I'm not bothered.

Here, read this, it might explain a bit http://www.therugbyforum.com/northern-hemisphere-rugby-union/429-the-dynamics-of-a-tip-tackle