22 October 2016 v Australia, Eden Park, Auckland

[The Jones Boy]

As someone said above, there isn't much else on offer till the next RWC as big as breaking this record so that we no longer share it with anyone (the Bokke)

 

[Lé Ddanno]

As someone said above, there isn't much else on offer till the next RWC as big as breaking this record so that we no longer share it with anyone (the Bokke)

And Lithuania!

 

[Zapphod]

And Lithuania!

Long way to go before we are in the same league as Cyprus though.

 

[Brigantine]

Long way to go before we are in the same league as Cyprus though.

Cyprus? *checks Wikipedia*

Oh wow. Not bad for a country that at the time wasn't even an IRB member. (still only associate WR member iirc). 24 straight wins taking them right from Division 3D up to Division 2B - and now Conference 1-South.

Who does NZ need to beat to claim that record? Aus, Ireland, Italy, Ireland, France, B&I Lions x3

Can we get the NZ Ambassadors XV into the Rugby Europe Development comp instead? That seems easier.

 

[The Jones Boy]

All Mr Hansen and co. will be worried about is the next game.
If they get the record then they will be chuffed.
It will add some bite to every game that follows after as we all wonder who will take them down, when will they falter, are injuries mounting etc and it will add an extra dimension to proceedings for the players and the fans.

What can Cheika come up with?

Who will be on our team sheet.?

Will the Eden Park crowd make a difference?

Do it for Jonah and Jerry boys.

 

[Zapphod]

Cyprus? *checks Wikipedia*

Oh wow. Not bad for a country that at the time wasn't even an IRB member. (still only associate WR member iirc). 24 straight wins taking them right from Division 3D up to Division 2B - and now Conference 1-South.

Who does NZ need to beat to claim that record? Aus, Ireland, Italy, Ireland, France, B&I Lions x3

Can we get the NZ Ambassadors XV into the Rugby Europe Development comp instead? That seems easier.

25 would be the 3rd Lions test in July next year, I think it is a bit of a pipe dream for them to reach that point unbeaten, they havent even got the record yet so lets not start counting chickens.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

25 would be the 3rd Lions test in July next year, I think it is a bit of a pipe dream for them to reach that point unbeaten, they havent even got the record yet so lets not start counting chickens.

Looking at those fixtures their best chance of losing is to a nation that has never beaten them before, I'd say it's very much in Hansen's mind to get to the next rugby championship unbeaten.

 

[The Jones Boy]

We haven't broken the record yet,
We need to get across the line first before we worry about any other fixtures.

 

[nzlizard]

We haven't broken the record yet,
We need to get across the line first before we worry about any other fixtures.

Exactly, focus on this milestone then start talking about the next.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

This 17 test winning streak includes wins over tier 2 nations:Namibia, Georgia and Tonga. So surely the world record should only count wins over tier 1 nations only.

 

[Cruz_del_Sur]

Not sure. i thought Lithuania were the record holders so it really doesn't count who the opposition is.
Just as it doesn't count the opposition Japan faced for Ohata to be the top try scorer in international tests.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Not sure. i thought Lithuania were the record holders so it really doesn't count who the opposition is.
Just as it doesn't count the opposition Japan faced for Ohata to be the top try scorer in international tests.

Well it does matter who the opposition are, which is why no one values the achievement of Lithuania's streak or how many tries Ohata has scored; it slight devalues the achievement. Yes if ABs win v Australia it will be 18 test wins in a row, but 15/18 of this wins will be v Tier 1 nations.

 

[Brigantine]

AFAICT the record being talked about is FOR T1 countries only, but against any opposition.

Whether or not that's the best record to spend our time thinking about... That's a different question. The media seems to think so - but they would say that, wouldn't they.

 

[nickdnz]

This 17 test winning streak includes wins over tier 2 nations:Namibia, Georgia and Tonga. So surely the world record should only count wins over tier 1 nations only.

Well it is the record for consecutive wins by a tier 1 naton. So no it shouldn't be discounted - unless you are arguing that tests against Namibia and Georgia in RWCs aren't actually test matches..

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Well it is the record for consecutive wins by a tier 1 naton. So no it shouldn't be discounted - unless you are arguing that tests against Namibia and Georgia in RWCs aren't actually test matches..

Yes a test v Namibia does not really count IMO; just like I think Uruguay were at the RWC to make up numbers- neither side had any real chance to win a test v a tier 1 nation. Georgia it is arguable, as they have at least won the second tier rugby European championship several times and they are not far behind Italy.

 

[Brigantine]

[Georgia] are not far behind Italy.

11. Georgia 75.23
12. Japan 74.95
13. Italy 72.23

What are you on about?

 

[Bada-Bing!]

11. Georgia 75.23
12. Japan 74.95
13. Italy 72.23

What are you on about?

Yes, Georgia should be in the Six Nations. But still they are classed as a tier 2 nation, despite their world ranking.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_rugby_union_teams

 

[Reign]

Yes a test v Namibia does not really count IMO; just like I think Uruguay were at the RWC to make up numbers- neither side had any real chance to win a test v a tier 1 nation. Georgia it is arguable, as they have at least won the second tier rugby European championship several times and they are not far behind Italy.

I see where you're coming from, but they do count, it's written in record as a "test match". Besides, the All Blacks are unlikely to lose their remaining games of the year. They should beat Ireland twice and France and Italy, so the record in all shapes and sizes should be broken to everyone's satisfaction by the end of the year.

 

[Shaggy]

This 17 test winning streak includes wins over tier 2 nations:Namibia, Georgia and Tonga. So surely the world record should only count wins over tier 1 nations only.

I agree, from the point of view that you need to compare Apples with Apples ... Nick Mallett's South African team 97-98 won against stronger opposition for the most part, with Italy probably the only non tier 1 team (they didn't join the six nations until 2000) included in the streak.

It's hard to compare era's because of the number of fixtures played per year etc, but the All Blacks from 1965-1969 achieved 17 consecutive wins in test matches, which in those days essentially meant you had to be playing against one of the four home nations, Australia, France, South Africa, or the British and Irish Lions.

The All Blacks of 2013-14 with 17 wins have only Japan as a non tier 1 nation in their wins, and didn't have the benefit of a RWC against weaker opposition to boost their tally.

It's still a great achievement, but possibly if the All Blacks can win all of their remaining matches this year, it would be a record of more significance

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Not sure. i thought Lithuania were the record holders so it really doesn't count who the opposition is.

http://stats.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/records/team/most_consecutive_wins.html?id=1;type=class

Looks like Cyprus are the record holders of consecutive test wins at 24. So ABs have to aim for this figure to have the outright record, which takes us to the 3rd test of the Lions by my calculation to break it, if they win all their matches between now and then.

http://stats.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/records/team/most_consecutive_wins.html?id=1;type=class