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[2018 Super Rugby] Round 18: 6-7 July 2018
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<blockquote data-quote="Cruz_del_Sur" data-source="post: 911303" data-attributes="member: 55747"><p>I will do my best to be objective, as hard (or delusional, why not) as that may sound. </p><p>If you look at our (i mean argentines') posts here over the last 2 year, we consistently blamed ourselves, even when evidence suggested the ref was biased against us. Look back the 2015 and 2016. We destroyed ourselves with comments about performance, planning, you name it. Hardly ever we blamed the ref. </p><p>So why now? Well, i believe the answer is twofold. First, in the first two seasons we had no chance of qualifying, now we do. The closer you are to "the margin", the more important margin calls become. Second, i sincerely believe this game was outstanding in terms of refereeing. It was simply unbelievable. Just ask yourself this: without using google, how many times have you seen a ref "forget" about giving a penalty advantage while you had the ball in your opponents' 22? He was told so by our captain, to no avail. </p><p></p><p>I can understand the ref missing something, it happens. But all the things above were pointed out and reviewed by the TMO</p><p>1) Two knock one that ended up in tries</p><p>2) Neck roll</p><p>3) Shoulder to head</p><p></p><p>plus forgetting an advantage. Those are 5 big calls (1 yc, 1 yc/rc, two tries, and one penalty for us 5 yds away from their in goal), all of which went the bulls way and controversially so. </p><p></p><p>All of them were reviewed. That's what we cannot understand. Mistake is when you do not see something. That was not the case here. They saw what happened, they just considered it not relevant. That's what was so infuriating. </p><p></p><p>The aggressiveness is quite mild things considering, given that the Sharks lost later. Had we been on the fence because of this, people would have exploded. </p><p></p><p>In case you are interested in eliminating my/our bias, do the following: go to any rugby portal and read the comments from non-Argentine people. It's not me, people who watch the game tend to agree. The ref played a big role. </p><p></p><p>I cannot watch Jaguares/Pumas with argentine commentators because i hate their bias. I do a conscious effort to be as objective as I can. I sincerely think this ain't my bias talking.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cruz_del_Sur, post: 911303, member: 55747"] I will do my best to be objective, as hard (or delusional, why not) as that may sound. If you look at our (i mean argentines') posts here over the last 2 year, we consistently blamed ourselves, even when evidence suggested the ref was biased against us. Look back the 2015 and 2016. We destroyed ourselves with comments about performance, planning, you name it. Hardly ever we blamed the ref. So why now? Well, i believe the answer is twofold. First, in the first two seasons we had no chance of qualifying, now we do. The closer you are to "the margin", the more important margin calls become. Second, i sincerely believe this game was outstanding in terms of refereeing. It was simply unbelievable. Just ask yourself this: without using google, how many times have you seen a ref "forget" about giving a penalty advantage while you had the ball in your opponents' 22? He was told so by our captain, to no avail. I can understand the ref missing something, it happens. But all the things above were pointed out and reviewed by the TMO 1) Two knock one that ended up in tries 2) Neck roll 3) Shoulder to head plus forgetting an advantage. Those are 5 big calls (1 yc, 1 yc/rc, two tries, and one penalty for us 5 yds away from their in goal), all of which went the bulls way and controversially so. All of them were reviewed. That's what we cannot understand. Mistake is when you do not see something. That was not the case here. They saw what happened, they just considered it not relevant. That's what was so infuriating. The aggressiveness is quite mild things considering, given that the Sharks lost later. Had we been on the fence because of this, people would have exploded. In case you are interested in eliminating my/our bias, do the following: go to any rugby portal and read the comments from non-Argentine people. It's not me, people who watch the game tend to agree. The ref played a big role. I cannot watch Jaguares/Pumas with argentine commentators because i hate their bias. I do a conscious effort to be as objective as I can. I sincerely think this ain't my bias talking. [/QUOTE]
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