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2025 Guinness Six Nations
[2018 6 Nations] Round 5 : England v Ireland (17/03/2018)
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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 894977" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>I'd agree that we haven't played to our best but I also think we have been stronger than we're being given credit for, I'm seeing plenty of comments, some here but mostly elsewhere, claiming we've been lucky, the sides we faced were weak, discrediting the France win due to the manner of it etc... </p><p></p><p>If you compare it with England's grand slam campaign in 2016 we've been far more impressive with the Championship won, and a game to go against a side who only managed to win their home game and the game against Italy, than England were in the same situation. We've scored 7 more tries, have a 17 point better points differential and it's fair to say France and Scotland are far better now and Wales haven't regressed that much. We've been all but dominant in an otherwise unpredictable tournament and will really have to beaten by England on Saturday because nothing will be given up easily. Huge turnarounds can happen in a week at this level, we saw it last year, but unlike last year the new faces England will bring in to counteract their injuries and broken system are inexperienced and worse than their opposite number rather than two players who'd tour with the Lions and a 46 cap International. </p><p></p><p>There's a lot more to this challenge than picking a backrow and depending on Twickers to guide you home, this will be your toughest 6n test in Twickenham since 2014 when, behind a magical Mike Brown performance, you snuck it home, I think Ireland are in a better place and England a worse place now than that fixture too.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd disagree again here, Ireland have 68, 63, 69 (woop woop) and 62% possession stats in their four games so far with both France and Scotland winning a few jackal penalties off us. The more rucks there are in the game the better chance we have considering our effectiveness both sides of the ball mean we generally have it 2/3rds of the time and force on average 10 penalties a game with four refs ranging from Barnes to Owens. I don't think England have a backrow (or centres or wings) who can mount a challenge.</p><p></p><p>I think England's only hope is a low scoring game with a score being the difference like we saw against Wales, the physicality and discipline will have to be far far better though. I'm wary of the away record in the 6n recently but find little else to be worried about, if the game was played on paper...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 894977, member: 45598"] I'd agree that we haven't played to our best but I also think we have been stronger than we're being given credit for, I'm seeing plenty of comments, some here but mostly elsewhere, claiming we've been lucky, the sides we faced were weak, discrediting the France win due to the manner of it etc... If you compare it with England's grand slam campaign in 2016 we've been far more impressive with the Championship won, and a game to go against a side who only managed to win their home game and the game against Italy, than England were in the same situation. We've scored 7 more tries, have a 17 point better points differential and it's fair to say France and Scotland are far better now and Wales haven't regressed that much. We've been all but dominant in an otherwise unpredictable tournament and will really have to beaten by England on Saturday because nothing will be given up easily. Huge turnarounds can happen in a week at this level, we saw it last year, but unlike last year the new faces England will bring in to counteract their injuries and broken system are inexperienced and worse than their opposite number rather than two players who'd tour with the Lions and a 46 cap International. There's a lot more to this challenge than picking a backrow and depending on Twickers to guide you home, this will be your toughest 6n test in Twickenham since 2014 when, behind a magical Mike Brown performance, you snuck it home, I think Ireland are in a better place and England a worse place now than that fixture too. I'd disagree again here, Ireland have 68, 63, 69 (woop woop) and 62% possession stats in their four games so far with both France and Scotland winning a few jackal penalties off us. The more rucks there are in the game the better chance we have considering our effectiveness both sides of the ball mean we generally have it 2/3rds of the time and force on average 10 penalties a game with four refs ranging from Barnes to Owens. I don't think England have a backrow (or centres or wings) who can mount a challenge. I think England's only hope is a low scoring game with a score being the difference like we saw against Wales, the physicality and discipline will have to be far far better though. I'm wary of the away record in the 6n recently but find little else to be worried about, if the game was played on paper... [/QUOTE]
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