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[2016 Super Rugby] Kings vs. Jaguares (Round 14) 27/05/2016
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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_heineken" data-source="post: 799883" data-attributes="member: 40658"><p>I'm not going to quote your whole post, because it's too damn long.</p><p></p><p>but anyways, here's what my opinion is on the Sam Cane, The 2 red cards of the Jaguares and the Etzebeth/De Jager tickle contest:</p><p></p><p><u>The Sam Cane incident</u></p><p>After looking at the footage from the website you provided, most of the replays can't clearly show the point of impact where Cane connects with the opponent, and the other problem is that while Cane is entering the ruck are, other players are joining from the other side which had an effect on the Jaguares' movement towards Cane. There are some mitigating factors to consider here.</p><p></p><p><u>Jaguares 2 red cards</u></p><p></p><p>Here's a video showing the 2 red cards:</p><p><a href="http://<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qw337b1R3Dg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>" target="_blank"><iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qw337b1R3Dg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></a></p><p></p><p>Right at the start of the video is the first incident. no. 5 of the Jaguares can clearly be seen coming to clear out the Blonde fellow of the Kings, and then he comes from a diagonal line of the ruck straight into the player with his shoulder to his face. There is no mitigating factor here. </p><p></p><p>As for the 2nd red, Why would that prop dive onto a player that is already on the ground and out of the contest and that with his shoulder? This in my view is just cynical thuggish behavior.</p><p></p><p><u>Etzebeth/De Jager</u></p><p></p><p><a href="http://<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/omOwjU3VHMs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>" target="_blank"><iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/omOwjU3VHMs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></a></p><p></p><p>There's no eye gouge! As in neither player is attempting to put their finger in the other's eyes. They are trying to get a better grip, and there's nothing in it really. Glen Jackson's comments was exactly what that was, especially on the day the Springbok squad was to be announced after that match. I don't think any of the players would have smiled afterwards if there was an eye gouge or anything like that.</p><p></p><p>But I really don't get this "we are the victim" mentality by some Jaguares supporters. Biting, Eye Gouging, and these red card incidents this past weekend has been somewhat of an ongoing trend by the Jaguares players. And they plead guilty nearly everytime at the judicial hearings. There hasn't been an uproar of any of the foul play incidents where there was an outcry like the #Justice4Bakkies campaign a few years ago. So why keep on pointing the finger at officials and/or SANZAAR for having a conspiracy theory against the Jaguares and the ARU.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_heineken, post: 799883, member: 40658"] I'm not going to quote your whole post, because it's too damn long. but anyways, here's what my opinion is on the Sam Cane, The 2 red cards of the Jaguares and the Etzebeth/De Jager tickle contest: [U]The Sam Cane incident[/U] After looking at the footage from the website you provided, most of the replays can't clearly show the point of impact where Cane connects with the opponent, and the other problem is that while Cane is entering the ruck are, other players are joining from the other side which had an effect on the Jaguares' movement towards Cane. There are some mitigating factors to consider here. [U]Jaguares 2 red cards[/U] Here's a video showing the 2 red cards: [URL='<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qw337b1R3Dg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>']<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qw337b1R3Dg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/URL] Right at the start of the video is the first incident. no. 5 of the Jaguares can clearly be seen coming to clear out the Blonde fellow of the Kings, and then he comes from a diagonal line of the ruck straight into the player with his shoulder to his face. There is no mitigating factor here. As for the 2nd red, Why would that prop dive onto a player that is already on the ground and out of the contest and that with his shoulder? This in my view is just cynical thuggish behavior. [U]Etzebeth/De Jager[/U] [URL='<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/omOwjU3VHMs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>']<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/omOwjU3VHMs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/URL] There's no eye gouge! As in neither player is attempting to put their finger in the other's eyes. They are trying to get a better grip, and there's nothing in it really. Glen Jackson's comments was exactly what that was, especially on the day the Springbok squad was to be announced after that match. I don't think any of the players would have smiled afterwards if there was an eye gouge or anything like that. But I really don't get this "we are the victim" mentality by some Jaguares supporters. Biting, Eye Gouging, and these red card incidents this past weekend has been somewhat of an ongoing trend by the Jaguares players. And they plead guilty nearly everytime at the judicial hearings. There hasn't been an uproar of any of the foul play incidents where there was an outcry like the #Justice4Bakkies campaign a few years ago. So why keep on pointing the finger at officials and/or SANZAAR for having a conspiracy theory against the Jaguares and the ARU. [/QUOTE]
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