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<blockquote data-quote="j&amp;#039;nuh" data-source="post: 782157" data-attributes="member: 55446">Peat, I see that being the role of the second row and blindside primarily. They have the powerful frames to be able to drive over the ball effectively. I also don&#039;t see it being a particularly specialist role, everyone in the pack should be working in support of the ball carrier. In attack, I see the 7 playing the link between forwards and backs, which is why you often see the 7 making the most passes of any forward, but also rucking when numbers are low. Breakdown skills are what I see as the most important part of an openside because they are so specialist. Whilst a lot of forwards can be situationally competent in the breakdown, the 7 is the only player on the field that is actively looking for ways of disrupting the breakdown. I agree that the success of an openside shouldn&#039;t be measured on turnovers though. I think that more often than turning the ball over, they are slowing down opposition ball and this is a crucial role. There&#039;s no useful metric to really tell how often they are slowing opposition ball down relative to other players, but my instincts say that if you&#039;re the kind of player that turns the ball over often, then you&#039;re the kind of player that is slowing down opposition breakdown too.I think the point is that Kvesic is seen to lack in a skill that Jones deems as important for all forwards to have.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="j'nuh, post: 782157, member: 55446"] Peat, I see that being the role of the second row and blindside primarily. They have the powerful frames to be able to drive over the ball effectively. I also don't see it being a particularly specialist role, everyone in the pack should be working in support of the ball carrier. In attack, I see the 7 playing the link between forwards and backs, which is why you often see the 7 making the most passes of any forward, but also rucking when numbers are low. Breakdown skills are what I see as the most important part of an openside because they are so specialist. Whilst a lot of forwards can be situationally competent in the breakdown, the 7 is the only player on the field that is actively looking for ways of disrupting the breakdown. I agree that the success of an openside shouldn't be measured on turnovers though. I think that more often than turning the ball over, they are slowing down opposition ball and this is a crucial role. There's no useful metric to really tell how often they are slowing opposition ball down relative to other players, but my instincts say that if you're the kind of player that turns the ball over often, then you're the kind of player that is slowing down opposition breakdown too. I think the point is that Kvesic is seen to lack in a skill that Jones deems as important for all forwards to have. [/QUOTE]

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