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Message: <blockquote data-quote="msf" data-source="post: 715149" data-attributes="member: 72153">Saffcen, you were making a decent point until you mentioned John Hayes. I don't know SA rugby well, but I imagine Peter De Villiers' poor selection skills were partly responsible for the first two not being picked earlier. Wasn't he the one that played Spies for ages even though he never actually did much? Plus they had players of the calibre of Smith, Burger and Brussow to choose from, whereas Croft, Haskell and an aging Moody were keeping Robshaw out of the England team.- - - Updated - - -The thing is, Robshaw doesn't have the skills to be a world-class 6 either - he isn't great in the line out, and isn't a big tackler or carrier.</blockquote>