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[2014 TRC] South Africa v New Zealand in Johannesburg (04/10/2014)
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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_heineken" data-source="post: 676760" data-attributes="member: 40658"><p>Well I'm just a bit flabbergasted at how some kiwi fans are taking this loss. The well informed guys, this doesn't include you, but geez, some guys are blowing this out of proportion. How about taking the loss on the chin, and go on. If the Coach, Captain, and smart guys like Cooky, Darwin and Nick can take it, then so should the others. Richie Mccaw and JDV showed in the post match interviews how either teams respect their opposition, and it was great to see the top 2 teams staying humble, and congratulate one another. And Steve Hansen got another thumbs up from me in his post match interview.</p><p></p><p>Onto the test match itself. Well again a cracking test between the top 2 teams in the world. I wonder what would've happened if Duane Vermeulen was 100%?? I thought our second string flankers played exceptionally well. and the entire pack played like posessed men, attacking every ruck with vigour, tackling like their lives depended on it, and even Jannie Du Plessis making some runs and getting turnovers. Apart from Duane, I think Victor Matfield had a great performance. For a 38-year old guy he was everywhere, contributed in defense and attack and disrupted the AB's lineouts as usual.</p><p></p><p>Then Handre Pollard. 3rd time this year he has beaten the All Blacks. for a 20 year old he was outstanding, especially in the all important role as fly half, apart from the first kick he missed, he was just fantastic, and IMHO he overshadowed Beuden Barrett. Speaking of Barrett, it seemed like the Boks was targeting him when attacking, and I thought that was the AB's downfall, in not protecting him more. Our new gameplan is starting to work wonders. Our mix of "Stampkar" and using the width of the field is becoming a deadly combo.</p><p></p><p>I thoroughly enjoyed this match, and I wonder if the stigma of Wayne Barnes and NZ weren't there BEFORE the test, if some of these stupid comments would've even popped up. The ref was erroneous on some occasions, yes, but to both sides. The first try for example, I thought he should've given a scrum penalty to the boks for the AB props popping up and wheeling the scrum illegally, but we all know that the scrums and penalties are a lottery nowadays. Barnes also missed a few knock-ons. One of them very close to the AB's goalline, which would've given the Boks a 5m scrum. </p><p></p><p>As for the Messam incident. It's funny that the guys seem to only see that penalty and the use of the TMO in that instance as wrong. Barnes did the exact same thing in the first half. He called for the scrum, and then just as the guys were getting set up, he stopped the play, and walk to the touch line, and asked the TMO: "is there something we need to take a look at". The TMO and the touch judge communicated with Barnes, had a quick look at a foul play report, and then when they saw that it wasn't foul play, went back to the scrum. IMHO I thought the use of the TMO in this manner, saves time. I thought Barnes call on Messam's high shot was also spot on. in real time it didn't look malicious at all, and therefore the penalty alone was sufficient, even though Messam didn't use his arms. Let's leave it at that.</p><p></p><p>All in all, the Boks played better on the day, but I have to say the fitness of the All Blacks is something to admire, the way they just got better and better as the game progressed, is a testament to that, especially at altitude.</p><p></p><p>My biggest concern in the second half was HM sending on subs at the wrong time. Why he replaced Hougaard and Pollard when he did was a strange call, unless Pollard was injured, which didn't look like the case after the game. Last week our subs made a huge difference, and this time, they broke our momentum. I guess it's an area HM and his staff has to concentrate on.</p><p></p><p>Congrats AB's on winning the RC! And my call even before the start of the tournament was spot on. I said it will be the same end result on the log as last year, but the margins would be closer. I'm looking forward to next year, for both the RC, and the World Cup!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_heineken, post: 676760, member: 40658"] Well I'm just a bit flabbergasted at how some kiwi fans are taking this loss. The well informed guys, this doesn't include you, but geez, some guys are blowing this out of proportion. How about taking the loss on the chin, and go on. If the Coach, Captain, and smart guys like Cooky, Darwin and Nick can take it, then so should the others. Richie Mccaw and JDV showed in the post match interviews how either teams respect their opposition, and it was great to see the top 2 teams staying humble, and congratulate one another. And Steve Hansen got another thumbs up from me in his post match interview. Onto the test match itself. Well again a cracking test between the top 2 teams in the world. I wonder what would've happened if Duane Vermeulen was 100%?? I thought our second string flankers played exceptionally well. and the entire pack played like posessed men, attacking every ruck with vigour, tackling like their lives depended on it, and even Jannie Du Plessis making some runs and getting turnovers. Apart from Duane, I think Victor Matfield had a great performance. For a 38-year old guy he was everywhere, contributed in defense and attack and disrupted the AB's lineouts as usual. Then Handre Pollard. 3rd time this year he has beaten the All Blacks. for a 20 year old he was outstanding, especially in the all important role as fly half, apart from the first kick he missed, he was just fantastic, and IMHO he overshadowed Beuden Barrett. Speaking of Barrett, it seemed like the Boks was targeting him when attacking, and I thought that was the AB's downfall, in not protecting him more. Our new gameplan is starting to work wonders. Our mix of "Stampkar" and using the width of the field is becoming a deadly combo. I thoroughly enjoyed this match, and I wonder if the stigma of Wayne Barnes and NZ weren't there BEFORE the test, if some of these stupid comments would've even popped up. The ref was erroneous on some occasions, yes, but to both sides. The first try for example, I thought he should've given a scrum penalty to the boks for the AB props popping up and wheeling the scrum illegally, but we all know that the scrums and penalties are a lottery nowadays. Barnes also missed a few knock-ons. One of them very close to the AB's goalline, which would've given the Boks a 5m scrum. As for the Messam incident. It's funny that the guys seem to only see that penalty and the use of the TMO in that instance as wrong. Barnes did the exact same thing in the first half. He called for the scrum, and then just as the guys were getting set up, he stopped the play, and walk to the touch line, and asked the TMO: "is there something we need to take a look at". The TMO and the touch judge communicated with Barnes, had a quick look at a foul play report, and then when they saw that it wasn't foul play, went back to the scrum. IMHO I thought the use of the TMO in this manner, saves time. I thought Barnes call on Messam's high shot was also spot on. in real time it didn't look malicious at all, and therefore the penalty alone was sufficient, even though Messam didn't use his arms. Let's leave it at that. All in all, the Boks played better on the day, but I have to say the fitness of the All Blacks is something to admire, the way they just got better and better as the game progressed, is a testament to that, especially at altitude. My biggest concern in the second half was HM sending on subs at the wrong time. Why he replaced Hougaard and Pollard when he did was a strange call, unless Pollard was injured, which didn't look like the case after the game. Last week our subs made a huge difference, and this time, they broke our momentum. I guess it's an area HM and his staff has to concentrate on. Congrats AB's on winning the RC! And my call even before the start of the tournament was spot on. I said it will be the same end result on the log as last year, but the margins would be closer. I'm looking forward to next year, for both the RC, and the World Cup! [/QUOTE]
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