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[2014 Mid-Year Test] Australia vs France (2nd Test)

Lol. Yes you are correct: the only reason I tip against the Force is because I hate Australia. It is not as though I actually live in Australia or anything (and love the place!). I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact I think the Force will lose the matches (and often do - how did they go against the Crusaders and Stormers recently?). I suppose I could always adopt your approach of picking the Force to win every week then claiming there were biased refs whenever they lose :lol:

Regardless, I just get a feeling France will win this match. France are a much better side than they showed last weekend, and are most dangerous with their backs to the wall. I think Australia are obviously the stronger side, but it wouldn't surprise me if France win one of two remaining tests....


Force this season have won more games then they have lost, I wouldn't use the term "often". Every teams loses matches. Still going better than your pathetic Highlanders.

In terms of you tipping France which is absolute pathetic, no sane man would tip France. You need more than a bloody nose my friend
 
Force this season have won more games then they have lost, I wouldn't use the term "often". Every teams loses matches. Still going better than your pathetic Highlanders.

In terms of you tipping France which is absolute pathetic, no sane man would tip France. You need more than a bloody nose my friend



Relax man. It is an internet forum. People are going to have differing opinions to you. Not everyone is going to support the same team/s as you or blindly pick their side to win every week regardless of their opposition. Some of us actually watch rugby and make predictions about future matches based on what we have observed :eek: As far as I can see I've only made 5 predictions about Force matches this year on the forum (the Bulls, Stormers, Cheetahs, Lions, and Crusaders matches). I got 3/5 predictions correct - not great, but it was a pass mark at very least (it would have been the same number you would have got with your 'back the Force every week' tactic). Not that it remotely relevant, but the 'pathetic' Highlanders are actually above the Force on the table at the moment too....

Australia may well win this match comfortably - if the French played like they did last weekend they certainly will - but a French win is not out of the question. I feel the 13.5 point head-start the betting agencies are offering for France is quite generous so may put a bit of money on ($6 head-to-head could be an option too). Knowing the bloody French though if I do that they will probably lose by 50....
 
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^ you're telling others to "relax", that's funny.

So many speculate that the stakes aren't high enough for France to really react. France only react when their backs truly are against the walls, but this is some test series in Australia and as I've written extensively about it a bit earlier on this thread this France group doesn't seem to possess the All-French resolve we expect from them de facto.
Even in the past in some of those vintage French sides, we would take a pounding in one test but then come back in the next big time but it didn't mean we won each one of those. Unfortunately France doesn't automatically win a test after a blowout every single time lol. But do they have the means to win this ? Yeah. But boy do we need to play better than last week !!! :p
 
I was just reading Planet Rugby's preview for this second test:
http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_9347191,00.html

And one passage caught my attention:
"No doubt France will have a point to prove, and if there is one thing we've all learnt it's that you should never write the French off. But if things don't go the visitors' way early on, do these Bleus have the passion to fight to the end? I fear another crushing defeat could kill off this team's self belief for good."

Ever since Saint-André's come into office to start 2012, I, (like the whole world !) have been absolutely expecting a strong rebound from the side, given they were in a bad place. We did get the 2012 EOYT which was excellent-to very good, but let's call this an anomaly. From 2013 til now, we haven't really had that typical French revival, and this team seems very different from all the other French teams because of that. My point here is they may very well take another pounding here, which never would've happened before. There's something different about this PSA team for a French team, I don't think they have it in them to come out and shock the way every single other French side has at a certain point.

France were just totally under control during that 4-game win streak in 2012, pounding the Wallabies on every possible front, putting 40 past Argentina, containing the strongest Samoan side to date. This wasn't French ardor, it was just very well calculated strategies.
The best we've done since then has been a good game in Twickenham (that should've been a lot closer than the final score), a couple of fine tests in NZ and again a very good test at home against the same AB, and then the latest games against England and Ireland in Paris. But all 6 of those latter matches were just strong efforts, but had nothing to do with Frenchness, that ability to entirely transcend themselves and transgress all odds going against them. We were just intense and let our individual talents express themselves.
In short, I do think the French "magic" doesn't exist in this side, but do believe it'll return for sure after PSA. But he's just so empty of any sort of life or competence as a coach, he has absolutely nothing fulfilling to offer this current era French team.

Now don't get me wrong, they might make this one a close test. But it won't be in the fashion we've known France to do it. They'll have fine-tuned their defense, and couldn't possibly play worse on attack, and the scrum will be better (an empty-tank Mas on the bench).

I expect a much closer test, but France like I said just may not have it in them to be French and take this with Gallic ardor and utter defiance from the Wallabies. Too much confusion, not enough chemistry or clear references - and it sounds cliché and reductive but yes it is all down to the coach.

I couldn't agree more! I don't want to be a pessimist but this French team is pretty much a write off until PSA goes. Back in the day such a heavy lost could have only been followed by an fantastic typical French win! After we lost to Tonga in the World Cup for example everyone knew we would beat England! I remember watching an interview from Johnny Wilkinson and he worryingly said "Tonga just had to beat France didn't they?!!" He knew France would be unplayable after being humiliated like that.

From what we've seen since 2013 I think it's clear that this French team doesn't have that certain je ne sais quoi in them that they need to bounce back like the France teams of the past.

There's nothing I want more than to be proved wrong! Please please prove me wrong!! I want my french flair and unpredictability back!
 
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don't expect French flair and if France win don't expect it to be a perfect game with magnificent handling for 80min. Just look at the last time we beat Australia just 1.5years ago. We saturated their attack, bullied them in the scrum (Picamoles scores try 1 off a huge scrum platfrom, + penalty scrum on try 3), made our kicks, lead a balanced attack but nothing unbelievable, Michalak opened them up and set up Fofana for try 2, excellent discipline and a big battle on the ground...
Can France achieve this ?? Of course. But will they ?
 
I think Aussies could have problems with the reserve's front row in the second half. Nathan Charles, Pek Cowan and Lauri Weeks, Mmmm...
 
don't expect French flair and if France win don't expect it to be a perfect game with magnificent handling for 80min. Just look at the last time we beat Australia just 1.5years ago. We saturated their attack, bullied them in the scrum (Picamoles scores try 1 off a huge scrum platfrom, + penalty scrum on try 3), made our kicks, lead a balanced attack but nothing unbelievable, Michalak opened them up and set up Fofana for try 2, excellent discipline and a big battle on the ground...
Can France achieve this ?? Of course. But will they ?

I would agree and that is why France has Tales at 10......it will be forward driven and back to the Lagisquet modus operandi of forwards, forwards, forwards as the backs are crap!!! The biggest problem is that the replacement for him is Michalak..............and him coming on would be suicide!

Australia by 15 points.............they have the look of a settled team and I want them to do well to provide the AB's with a challenge this year!

What is the attendance....know big stadium but huge areas with no one there!
 
Dulin has started really very well..............impressive!
 
We're fkng shhit, simple as that. .

Would not go anywhere near that.......they are playing to their perceived strengths and try to contain the ASussies and reckon they are doing that fairly well! 0-0 after 17 minutes seems to indicate that!
 
errr, why the fk is Dulin kicking ??...(yes I know Parra doesn't like the long ones).
 
weeee, another one of those for France. How many teams have scored like this on us ???
 
Australia very unlucky not to be awarded that try - I didn't even think the French player was touched.....
 
we're going to get ousted in the 1/4F next year after finishing second to a properly coached Ireland. Ireland, of all teams, the irony.
 
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