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[2013 TRC] South Africa vs. Argentina in Soweto (17/08/2013)
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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 587431" data-attributes="member: 48703"><p>Manuel Contepomi, Nicolas Fernandez Miranda, Federico Todeschini and Martin Durand were hardly "stars" of Argentina rugby. Longo, Lobbe, Ledesma and Roncero have all have capable replacements.</p><p></p><p>A match at altitude against the Springboks is tough for the weaker teams. Argentina lost 63-9 in Jo'burg in 2008. Even a top 4 in the world side Australia have had bad matches at altitude, they lost 53-8 in 2008 a week after beating the Boks at sea level. They lost 49-0 as well in 2006. And Samoa recently conceded over 50 at altitude after coming into the game in good form. Altitude always increases a thrashing especially when a team hasn't prepared for it properly (like that Samoan side that lost heavily to the Lions), and better teams than Argentina have suffered.</p><p></p><p>I wasn't for Phelan getting his contract renewed after RWC 2011 and I feel Argentina were too satisfied by that tournament and too happy despite throwing away wins in the RC last year. But I think this match should be listed anomaly with matches such as Wales' 96-13 loss in Pretoria in 1998, Australia's 49-0 loss in 2006 and Samoa's 74-14 loss to the Lions this year. The return match will give a far better indication of the Pumas and what judgements need to be made on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 587431, member: 48703"] Manuel Contepomi, Nicolas Fernandez Miranda, Federico Todeschini and Martin Durand were hardly "stars" of Argentina rugby. Longo, Lobbe, Ledesma and Roncero have all have capable replacements. A match at altitude against the Springboks is tough for the weaker teams. Argentina lost 63-9 in Jo'burg in 2008. Even a top 4 in the world side Australia have had bad matches at altitude, they lost 53-8 in 2008 a week after beating the Boks at sea level. They lost 49-0 as well in 2006. And Samoa recently conceded over 50 at altitude after coming into the game in good form. Altitude always increases a thrashing especially when a team hasn't prepared for it properly (like that Samoan side that lost heavily to the Lions), and better teams than Argentina have suffered. I wasn't for Phelan getting his contract renewed after RWC 2011 and I feel Argentina were too satisfied by that tournament and too happy despite throwing away wins in the RC last year. But I think this match should be listed anomaly with matches such as Wales' 96-13 loss in Pretoria in 1998, Australia's 49-0 loss in 2006 and Samoa's 74-14 loss to the Lions this year. The return match will give a far better indication of the Pumas and what judgements need to be made on. [/QUOTE]
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